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[Michael Davis]

Party 5-10

I'm on the big blind with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], call a raise, and end up jammed in a four way capped pot after an EP player limp reraises and the original raiser caps.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check, limp-reraiser bets, the player who didn't raise preflop raises, the raiser/capper folds, I call two cold getting 9.5-1 but fearing another raise. The limp-reraiser just calls.

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I bet.

-Michael

[Victor]

im chuckin on the flop.

[dave44]

Not a big fan of the flop call either. Plenty of higher clubs are perfectly legitimate holdings for your opponents

A 4th club will hit 9/47 of the time on the next card and you're getting 9.5:1 so you need to be good 47/(9*9.5) or 54.9%.

Just looking at your opponents cards as completely random, the odds none of their 4 cards is a better club is (40/47)^4 or 52.4%.

Now factor in implied and reverse implied odds, which work against you here since the 4th flush card is scary for anyone without a flush and you'll certainly lose bets when someone has a higher flush along with the fact that both players have shown a willingness to continue in the pot, and I think your call is -EV.

Consider also that the most likely hand for the limp-reraiser would be AA which has a decent redraw on you.

[StellarWind]

I'm not paying multiple flop bets to draw to a set that frequently loses. I don't think the "flush draw" is worth much after the flop heats up like this.

A subtle point is that your four may not play if the board goes all clubs.