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Old 12-15-2005, 01:44 PM
stillbr stillbr is offline
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Default Calling with a 3-high flush...

The BB has Tagish stats but does some donk things. Seems like he read a book about starting hands and has no idea how to play. Button is a way too loose calling station. Anyways....

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Folded to me in the CO with 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Button coldcalls. BB calls.

Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

BB bets, I raise, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB checks, I check behind

River: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets, I call.

Thoughts??? I dont know if I like it or not.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

I don't like your preflop or flop play with your read of the Button.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

Did you raise pre flop?
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

why not bet the turn and take a free showdown? if Button reraises you than it's an easy fold.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

Sigh...would Villain lead out with a flush draw after you raised preflop (or ever?)? You say he doesn't seem to know what he's doing. So is he wily enough to suspect you're stealing and donk the flop for that reason? I'm leaning towards folding this flop. Just too much trouble. I'm lost on the river. I want to fold, but I suppose I'll call one.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

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Did you raise pre flop?

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yes.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:02 PM
SnglMaltScotch SnglMaltScotch is offline
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

I don't like any street but the turn. Really. I don't raise 33 from the CO with a loose button. I definitely don't raise a donk bet on the flop without a spectacular read. I might!! call with the flush on the end. But I would expect to lose.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

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Sigh...would Villain lead out with a flush draw after you raised preflop (or ever?)?

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Yes he will pretty much every single time. I've also seen him donk bet the flop, check/fold the turn.

Considering the way I played the flop, I dont know if I like betting the turn better.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

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why not bet the turn and take a free showdown? if Button reraises you than it's an easy fold.

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This is what I was thinking about. The bb is NEVER check-raising the turn on a bluff.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Calling with a 3-high flush...

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why not bet the turn and take a free showdown? if Button reraises you than it's an easy fold.

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This is what I was thinking about. The bb is NEVER check-raising the turn on a bluff.

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Yeah, but if he checkraises 2-pair or something your draw might still be good. I like the turn/river play.
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