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Old 08-09-2005, 05:29 PM
UATrewqaz UATrewqaz is offline
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Default Re: Chip Runner Lays Odds

Correct, I saw on a TV show once them talking to a casion and they watch dealers closely and review tapes, etc. (there were talking about some collusion between dealers and players) and he stated that dealers sometimes just make honest errors and payout too much or by mistake sometimes and if that occurs they warn the dealer about it and if a dealer is routinely sloppy about it they are let go.

So as far as table games go (where money flows in and out and thus a "bank" isn't possible) it sounds like casinos accept the occasional screw up from a dealer but if a dealer does it a few times too often they get axed.
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Old 08-09-2005, 05:59 PM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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Default Re: Fate of the Chip Runner

Does 'intelligence' mean 'someone justifying your theft?'

Why did you need us to do that? Clearly you did it yourself, right? What about that little 4 point argument you posted? Sounds like you're pretty darn sure of yourself.. aren't you?

Oh yeah and to the person who keeps claiming they are Libertarian and that's a justification - that's nonsense. Libertarians are not for taking money that's not yours - they respect property rights above all else.
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Old 08-09-2005, 06:03 PM
JihadOnTheRiver JihadOnTheRiver is offline
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Old 08-09-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: Chip Runner Lays Odds

Would you give the chips back to someone who misread their hand. I wouldn't, but I'd give it back to the chiprunner
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Old 08-10-2005, 02:03 AM
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it's very likely you won't get away with it. not too long ago, a supervisor confronted me with the news that I had been overpaid $500 more than a week earlier. they have cameras recording all the transactions, and then they track the runner to see who he gives the chips to. it takes a lot of time to go through all the tapes. if they recognize you, you will be asked to return the money. if you don't, you will be barred from the casino.
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Old 08-12-2005, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: Fate of the Chip Runner

Well hold on now, I wasn't defending you, just telling you how it worked.

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3. The chip runner "made the money up" in a fascinating way, breaking even for the night! Wow!


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If you don't care then so be it, but I'm just making sure we're on the same page here. You understand this means the chip runner worked that day without making ANY money if you mean "breaking even" like I think you mean.

I know I'd be pissed off and heads would roll at work if they didn't pay me for a day.

Did you even tip her that night? Because if you tipped her 1 buck then took that extra $100, in actuality, it's like you tipped her -$99 because she gave wrong change.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:03 AM
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I doubt they catch errors from dealers

I count card in BJ and have been overpaid many times.I've had a dealer tell me that I was an idiot for saying I was playing 2 hands ( which I was) and told me I was only playing one
What really pissed me off was her shitty attitude when I called the floor over
I get so much bullshit advice from dealers and they make enough mistakes that I have to be on top of that I sure as hell don't correct the errors that favor me.
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Old 08-12-2005, 08:47 AM
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I'm just very libertarian and don't believe that anyone really has a place to be criticizing anyone else's morals. That's why things like this get to me. He didn't break the law, so everyone should get off his case.

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No comment on the original $100 over-changing issue, but I find the poker and morality debate intriguing.

Metetron, you've had some interesting stuff to say in this thread, but I couldn't get past the comment above. Wouldn't you agree that you've engaged in some circular reasoning here? On the one hand you put forward a position on morality that basically denies it any validity as an area for debate (i.e., no-one can say anything reasonable about anyone else's moral standards). This is a fairly nihilistic position to take, but OK.

Then two sentences later, you use the word "should". If you really believe in your own position, you flat out aren't allowed to use evaluative words like "should" at the risk of being absurd.
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Old 08-12-2005, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Chip Runner Lays Odds

Forgive me, 2+2, for I have sinned.

I ordered an Italian sandwich from the grocery-store deli yesterday. One (underpaid, bored) employee made the sandwich, and another (underpaid, bored) employee went to ring me up after the first walked away. She said "Is this Boar's Head brand meat or store-brand?"

I said "What? I have no id- ... It's store brand." She pushed the button marked "cheaper sandwich", and I paid less. I still don't know what category my sandwich was in.

Just thought I'd share.
-Sam
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Old 08-12-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: Chip Runner Lays Odds

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as a sidebar, you are a piece of sh.it. you should strongly consider suicide.

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What I'm interested in is if anyone knows of a specific accounting procedure the chip runners have. There was a new game starting, the runner brought over like 10 racks of checks to sell to every one.

Legally, I doubt the chip runner would have to pay back an underage. I think he'd have a legitimate complaint against the casino if they made him pay. Accidental errors are just a cost of doing business in a casino, IMO.

And don't feel TOO bad for the house. They only drop (including asian games) about $250,000... a day.

Sparks

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Who cares how you feel?You are a thief and you've admitted it in a public forum.I hope someone that knows you from Commerce turns you in and they make you disappear.
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