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Old 09-24-2005, 09:55 AM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default ($22) A Fold I would have never made before

What do you think?
Good/bad?

Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: pCobos (800)
Seat 2: Hero (800)
Seat 3: sca123 (760)
Seat 4: shepman10 (875)
Seat 5: nezza1 (755)
Seat 6: straitr (800)
Seat 7: RascalKing88 (810)
Seat 8: neverphish (800)
Seat 9: RyNoOne (800)
Seat 10: HaywudGblome (800)
nezza1 posts small blind (10)
straitr posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9d, 9s ]
RascalKing88 calls (15)
neverphish calls (15)
RyNoOne folds.
HaywudGblome folds.
pCobos folds.
Hero calls (15)
sca123 folds.
shepman10 folds.
nezza1 calls (5)
straitr checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qd, 2s, Th ]
nezza1 checks.
straitr checks.
RascalKing88 checks.
neverphish checks.
Hero checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9h ]
nezza1 bets (15)
straitr raises (45) to 45
RascalKing88 folds.
neverphish folds.
Hero raises (125) to 125
nezza1 calls (110)
straitr raises (305) to 350
Hero folds.
nezza1 folds.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:02 AM
gumpzilla gumpzilla is offline
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Default Re: ($22) A Fold I would have never made before

Unless you know these guys pretty well, I don't like it. This can easily be a slowplayed flopped two pair, AA, QJ, JT, AQ, etc. While this action certainly is consistent with a big hand, I think there are plenty of hands that your opponents might think of as big here that your set crushes.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: ($22) A Fold I would have never made before

Push, too often he could have QJ here, he needs two cards to a straight and even the times he doesn have KJ/J8 you have outs. Push.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:09 AM
1C5 1C5 is offline
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Default Re: ($22) A Fold I would have never made before

One reason I folded is that he was in the BB (any 2 cards to fill the straight much more likely than QQ+ which would have probably been raised PF.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: ($22) A Fold I would have never made before

Nezza could easily be on a draw here, and straitr could have TP/Overpair/twopair all of which you beat. SOme options more likely than other, but you never know in the 22$. I just saw a guy minraise my opening bets on the flop and turn and then push the river with 8 high when i bet into him. The point is, don't try to make too fancy folds. I think i can fold TPTK or an overpair here, but not a set.
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:51 AM
Cactus Jack Cactus Jack is offline
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Default Re: ($22) A Fold I would have never made before

First, I bet the flop. I've got position and nobody bet, so who's got a Q with a very weak kicker? Let's find out. Makes the turn decision easier. I'm in for $75 and can fold to a big bet, or bet big or push. Easy call here, for me. If I'm going down, it will be with a set and that board. I'd rather gamble here and get off to a very comfortable lead rather than have to gamble later with much less. (At some point, I know I'll have to gamble, and I always look for places where I have the most edge.) Here I've got a set on the button. I'm controlling this pot. I don't fear monsters under the bed here. (A raise preflop would have even been better, if less profitable.)

Just how I would have played it. Flame away, 'cause I know I may be wrong.

CJ
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Old 09-24-2005, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: ($22) A Fold I would have never made before

I'm not betting 99 on the flop in a tiny pot with 4 others and 2 overcards on the board.
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:06 AM
applejuicekid applejuicekid is offline
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Default Re: ($22) A Fold I would have never made before

Did you know you were going to fold to a reraise before you raised?
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Old 09-24-2005, 11:07 AM
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Nono, raising preflop here is not good. You want to play this for set value. Betting the flop with this many people to it is a waste of chips, even in position, don't do it.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:06 PM
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Horrible fold. Weakt tight play at it's finest.
1. You probably have the best hand now and villain is likely on a draw
2. count the outs you have 10!!! even if opponent somehow made a hand with KJ or something you still can suck out 1/4 of the time.
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