10/20: 77 turns set in unraised multi-way pot - Page 2

edge · #11 11-21-2005, 09:58 PM

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Am I the only one who thinks this looks like aces and a missed limpreraise preflop from UTG?

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I can't see why else Ace would post this other than being worried about AA/KK missed limp-reraise.

I should probably avoid commenting on 10-handed hands, because I really don't know anything about preflop play. In 6-max I push the river for sure.

flawless_victory · #12 11-21-2005, 10:42 PM

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Stick it in on the turn?

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hell no.

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Stick it in on the river?

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hell no.

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Smoothcall river?

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i guess.

Big_Jim · #13 11-22-2005, 01:17 AM

uh.. no. OP is obviously afraid of this as well, as are several posters before you.

fsuplayer · #14 11-22-2005, 01:19 AM

i cant believe this many people (or anyone) is advocating a river push.

EnderW27 · #15 11-22-2005, 01:45 AM

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Am I the only one who thinks this looks like aces and a missed limpreraise preflop from UTG?

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He had to have both missed his limp-reraise AND whiffed on a check raised flop for this to be true. Talk about FPS here...

I'd pay off his river bet and, one can only assume, the only reason this is being posted is because you ended up paying off his river bet as well. If so, good play.

Big_Jim · #16 11-22-2005, 01:52 AM

Right.. but you're paying off his river bet instead of raising?

If you think it's so unlikely, why not push river?

AceHiStation · #17 11-22-2005, 01:55 AM

I've gotten too accustomed to the "If he has a set, pay him off" line of thinking and stuck my stack in the river... even though I thought his line looked more like AA than anything. I think a fold here is almost acceptable on the river but a smoothcall is more appropriate. I thought "Well, he could have AA or KK, but he can also have AK... so just in case, I will stick it in." Part of me felt that he had AA but I still stuck it in anyways, thinking maybe in the long run this play is profitable as there are more combinations of AK. I think this hand is fairly easy to put exactly on AA and possibly even KK. Thanks for all the good response,
-Ace

Niwa · #18 11-22-2005, 01:59 AM

checking that flop with a set of aces or kings with no action preflop is the only sane thing to do not FPS.

Big_Jim · #19 11-22-2005, 02:04 AM

I would lead out every time, ESPECIALLY with KK.

Villian got very lucky that hero hit his 2 "outer".

What second best hand are we looking for the field to improve to?

What do you do when a broadway card hits and MP player raises your turn bet?

LearnedfromTV · #20 11-22-2005, 02:04 AM

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I've gotten too accustomed to the "If he has a set, pay him off" line of thinking and stuck my stack in the river... even though I thought his line looked more like AA than anything. I think a fold here is almost acceptable on the river but a smoothcall is more appropriate. I thought "Well, he could have AA or KK, but he can also have AK... so just in case, I will stick it in." Part of me felt that he had AA but I still stuck it in anyways, thinking maybe in the long run this play is profitable as there are more combinations of AK. I think this hand is fairly easy to put exactly on AA and possibly even KK. Thanks for all the good response,
-Ace

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16 AK's, 12 AA/KK, 1 33 sure, but now that we know we're facing either the very unlikely quads or the much more likely "missed a limp reraise preflop hand" you have to weight the probaiblities to account for the fact that AK does this less often than AA or KK, and then AK is less likely to put in such a small turn reraise. Add to that that AK doesn't always payoff and I think it is a clear call.