In anticipation of the end of mining after Party Beta takes effect

[HRFats]

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the current version of the beta does not save observed hands to the local drive and doesn't give the play by play in the chat box - so, yes it appears to be true.

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Yeah, the CURRENT version of the BETA does not but who's to say the final realease won't? Maybe the programmers released the BETA before they coded in the HH lines. Maybe they left out the HH download capability in the BETA in case there was some bug that f'ed up your hard drive. Has anyone seen a final release of any software that was unchanged from the BETA? Doubtful. So Chicken Little, the sky may not be falling after all - but only time will tell.

[PokerAce]

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the current version of the beta does not save observed hands to the local drive and doesn't give the play by play in the chat box - so, yes it appears to be true.

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Yeah, the CURRENT version of the BETA does not but who's to say the final realease won't? Maybe the programmers released the BETA before they coded in the HH lines. Maybe they left out the HH download capability in the BETA in case there was some bug that f'ed up your hard drive. Has anyone seen a final release of any software that was unchanged from the BETA? Doubtful. So Chicken Little, the sky may not be falling after all - but only time will tell.

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This is true, and because it's a beta I have not spent much time trying to find out why PA Hud doesn't work perfectly with the new beta. They may end up changing things before the final version and I don't have enough time available to go wasting it.

However, because of Party's determination in destroying any services that offer shared hand history data, it's very likely that this feature is intentional and will be the same in the final version.

[aucu]

I data mine all tables before I sit down but probably won't miss it too much if it's similar to what AP now has.

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the current version of the beta does not save observed hands to the local drive and doesn't give the play by play in the chat box - so, yes it appears to be true.

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Yeah, the CURRENT version of the BETA does not but who's to say the final realease won't? Maybe the programmers released the BETA before they coded in the HH lines. Maybe they left out the HH download capability in the BETA in case there was some bug that f'ed up your hard drive. Has anyone seen a final release of any software that was unchanged from the BETA? Doubtful. So Chicken Little, the sky may not be falling after all - but only time will tell.

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This is their response to an email I sent them regarding the beta:

"Dear Player,

With reference to your mail please be informed that a observer player cannot save hand histories unless and until you take a seat at a table.

Such a feature will not be available in future."

[AlphaWice]

This is rediculous. PT software, and mining, in the hands of good players, confer a rediculous advantage.

For example, in a $600 NL I was playing, a very good player that I will not name, called my CR all in with a QJ high board, on the turn, with 55, because of my VPIP and PFR statistics.

I think its unfair that, essentially, anyone that wants to play high stakes and not get crushed needs to set up 2 computers, screen scraping software, PT datamining, etc. - its just stupid. I say ban it all.

[imported_leader]

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"Dear Player,

With reference to your mail please be informed that a observer player cannot save hand histories unless and until you take a seat at a table.

Such a feature will not be available in future."

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How does this company stay in business? Morons!

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GOOD.

[punter11235]

Writing a program which read HH's from what is going on the table (you very easily can read chat or even recognize card images) and then convert it to std HH format is very easy programming task (my friend wrote it in one day for other site when he had his crazy bot ideas). I think dataminers will be quick to get their own program for that.

Best wishes

[POKhER]

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Writing a program which read HH's from what is going on the table (you very easily can read chat or even recognize card images)

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Very easily identify the cards from the image analysis huh? I can program, and i can't think of a way to do this.

PM me the details mate.

Guys - I'm sure there will be ways around it, We'll have to see when the software is released.

The main problem will be POKERACE "mucked cards" no longer displaying... Oh joy... poker gets worse and worse.

[Voltron87]

do you guys all realize that if party wanted to they could just say "if you run [name of new mining app] we will shut down your account", its one thing to design a new program but if they want to they will have their way.