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Old 12-26-2005, 12:21 AM
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Default 88 UTG

BB is 66/0/.5 through 10 hands. i've seen him bet out twice on the flop when first to act.

MP2 is 45/0/.3 through 15 hands.

I raised UTG b/c I thought the table was tightening up and I could either get it HU or just against the blinds with position and a strong hand. I don't think I'd do it again in similar circumstances. that being said, comments on all streets are appreciated.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

River: (20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 32 BB
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: 88 UTG

I'd raise the turn the first time around and I'd fold the flop here as well, although raising is definitely better than calling.
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: 88 UTG

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BB is 66/0/.5 through 10 hands. i've seen him bet out twice on the flop when first to act.

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Has he shown down those hands?
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Old 12-26-2005, 08:58 AM
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You are unlikely to get raised behind unless you are beaten on the flop, so I raise here, and I guess if the pot were large and it was one bakc to me I'd call to see the Turn. I'd fold if it were capped.

Obviously bet bet bet turn &amp; river. You are only behind to JJ and 77, one of which is unlikely and the other is very unlikely, considering what else he might have. You could even be facing A7, AJ, 89h, 9Th against a realy poor player.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:54 AM
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Has he shown down those hands?

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one was bottom pair on the flop, one was K high.
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Old 12-26-2005, 11:46 AM
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You are only behind to JJ and 77

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Hes also behind to J8/J7/87.

I dont understand your turn call.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:04 PM
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"Hes also behind to J8/J7/87."

He has 8's full of 7's

7's full dont beat that.

it's gotta be Jack's full or Quad's to bust his hand
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: 88 UTG

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Has he shown down those hands?

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one was bottom pair on the flop, one was K high.

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Easy flop raise.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:48 PM
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You are only behind to JJ and 77

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Hes also behind to J8/J7/87.

I dont understand your turn call.

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On the flop he's behind Jx and 7x. Maybe folding is better on the flop since he only has two outs to make the 3rd nuts (as jd_poker said, he's behind 77 and JJ). He's ahead of Jx and 7x after he makes his boat. The pot ended up large enough to justify a 1BB raise on the flop (has to be larger than 22.5BB; if he'd have only called the pot could have been as little as 11.25BB to be profitable here). I would fold the flop and not raise 88 UTG preflop but then I think I'm too tight.

I don't understand the turn call either, you've made your boat so why are you raising the flop (when you're likely behind) and only calling here (when you're probably ahead)? Your flop raise sets you up to be aggressive on the turn after you've hit your miracle card. Cap turn, cap river, payoff quads or Jacks full of Sevens.

I don't think OP ran into JJ (probably reraised preflop), maybe he ran into 77? If so, unlucky, but it's very rare you'll ever be paying off flopped quads (0.245%).

Edit: If he's shown down King-high and bottom pair then I agree with the flop raise.
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:17 PM
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Aside from just raising the turn the first time, this hand is well played.
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