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Old 12-06-2005, 03:24 AM
Degen Degen is offline
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

Personally I rarely call that flop...

Given the set of circumstances you've described, I'd do a 1/3rd to 1/2 pot blocking/value bet on the river most of the time.
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Old 12-06-2005, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

I don't call the flop. All of you call the flop with this hand? I think that's a poor play in this structure of a tournament.

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Old 12-06-2005, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

With the BB under 100, I would check/call because a bluff wouldn't be a huge blow to my stack. When the blinds are bigger, I would bet 1/3rd the pot because a bluff by the villain could be over 600, which I wouldn't really enjoy calling. Like Degen said, I would probably fold this flop without reads.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

So basically, none of you guys ever do this.

PokerStars Game #3241296349: Tournament #15323030, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2005/12/04 - 17:43:44 (ET)
Table '15323030 249' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: dan2811 (4330 in chips)
Seat 2: Duke Charles (2415 in chips)
Seat 3: R0CKET88 (5255 in chips)
Seat 4: dk winner (4295 in chips)
Seat 5: Lynzeee (6090 in chips)
Seat 6: keke22 (6337 in chips)
Seat 7: Valpen (3395 in chips)
Seat 8: RuthieR (1960 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: adanthar (1980 in chips)
RuthieR: posts small blind 75
adanthar: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to adanthar [As 8c]
dan2811: calls 150
Duke Charles: folds
R0CKET88: calls 150
dk winner: folds
Lynzeee: folds
keke22: folds
Valpen: calls 150
RuthieR: folds
adanthar: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac 9s 9d]
adanthar: checks
dan2811: bets 450
R0CKET88: folds
Valpen: folds
adanthar: calls 450
*** TURN *** [Ac 9s 9d] [7h]
adanthar: checks
dan2811: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ac 9s 9d 7h] [3d]
adanthar: checks
dan2811: bets 1200
adanthar: calls 1200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
dan2811: shows [4s 6s] (a pair of Nines)
adanthar: shows [As 8c] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
adanthar collected 3975 from pot

I don't always or even very often play a hand like this. But if you don't ever do it, I think it's a leak.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:20 PM
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

yeah...except I put my last 180 in for good measure? Whats that all about?
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:23 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

I forget, I think I was talking to someone and didn't realize I'd have chips left or something.
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

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I forget, I think I was talking to someone and didn't realize I'd have chips left or something.

[/ QUOTE ]

I guess he couldve actually folded anyway...lol
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

Adanthar--

Why don't you always play this way? What is your "typical" line?
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Old 12-06-2005, 08:48 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Corollary to citanul\'s \'something to think about\' post

I play like this whenever I think my opponent is more likely to say 'here are my chips, take them' when I check than when I bet.

How often I think that depends on my table image, his table image and the table's image.

(not really being obtuse here, you should always be on top of at least two out of those three within a few hands or so)
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