QJs coordinated board - too passive or ok?

[DMBFan23]

preflop is fine, so is raising

fold the flop no doubt about it

[WalkAmongUs]

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I am calling the flop. Even if we only give ourselves 4 outs (reasonable, I think), we are getting 7:1.

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You're only getting 6:1 on the flop. At .10/.20 if you hit on the turn or river you can expect to get your raise called as well as a call on the river in one, if not, two spots. I think its close but considering the level and probable opponents, I think you could probably call profitably here.

[Bill Lumberg]

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I personally like to limp QJs in this situation, due to a few factors(Feel free to debate).

2, Players may cold call raise with AQs leaving us dominated(But they may raise if limped too).



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So, if you have KK, do you limp cause you're afraid someone may have AA? This is a raise every time and it's not even close.

I'd probably raise PF and fold the turn here.

[Pedigree]

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I am calling the flop. Even if we only give ourselves 4 outs (reasonable, I think), we are getting 7:1. I am winning at least 2 more BB if I hit the turn, and probably more with BB in the middle. Seriously, the flop call isn't that bad. People need to chill.

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Of those 4 outs you certainly don't know which are clean so you're not in a position to extract more BBs. It's probably that you hit something you think is an out and end up losing some BBs. Implied odds aren't that much of a factor here IMO.

[jaxUp]

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Of those 4 outs you certainly don't know which are clean so you're not in a position to extract more BBs. It's probably that you hit something you think is an out and end up losing some BBs. Implied odds aren't that much of a factor here IMO.

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I already discounted our outs from 6 to 4. That was to account for the outs that are not clean. However, a few posts up somebody noted that it's really only 6:1, pushing it towards a fold. It's still not as bad as everybody's making it to be though.