down 40 buyins and climbing

[Big Dave D]

I've never played below 1-2, and not below 2-4 in at least 2 years, so my knowledge of those kind of games is almost zero.

One slightly amusing story about this. Back when the 5-10 first kicked off on Stars, we got into this conversation. I said, an absolute minimum was 30. If only [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Two guys got into it, saying what the hell did I know, 10 buyins is enough for any winning player, blah blah.

And I never saw them again.

And I am still here, sort of [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

gl

Dave

[PorscheNGuns]

The consecutive streak has ended just now, hopefully along with the overall streak. I officially turn a 25 stack into 50 (actually into 70 on one hand).

That was the astonishing thing about the last 5 days. It wasnt only a bad run, it was ice cold. I never once breached $50 at a table while losing 40 buyins worth.

Anyways, two $150 reloads (a "relative's" account) as well as two empire reloads of $100 in the last 5 days kept my head cool.

-Matt

[dibbs]

A newb to the 25 plo so jmo...

I keep close track of how many pots I win/lose where I was the favorite, I don't get pissed off (for the most part) as long as I make positive decisions.

Off the top off my head I'm losing in PLO for september, it may be close, but I'm down probably 10 buy ins where I got it all in on the turn and I was at least a 2 to 1 favorite so it makes me sleep better.

40 seems a little high, I suppose it's possible though, just check HH's to see you're making the right moves in big pots and not bleeding chips with a lot of mediocre starters.

[PorscheNGuns]

I have PTO, is there a way I can look at pots I was involved in over x dollars? Or hands I lost the most in? That would be flippin sweet.

-Matt

[mshalen]

I don't think the time of day is a factor. Lately I have been playing a lot during the day (my office slows down during the summer) and I have been winning about the same during the day as the evening.

[jhall23]

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I have PTO, is there a way I can look at pots I was involved in over x dollars? Or hands I lost the most in? That would be flippin sweet.

-Matt

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Yes. Go to the third tab called "Game Notes". This will show each individual hand in groups of 100 by default. There is a button that says "Get All". Hit that and it will pull all hands in your db. There will be either a $WON or BB won tab somewhere (can't see cause I don't have PTO in front of me). Just hit that (twice to bring loses to the top) and it will sort based on that field and you can easily see your biggest wins and loses.

[PorscheNGuns]

Wow thanks, thats pretty sweet. I'll have to tinker a little with it later because whenever I try to playback any hand it says it cannot find that hand in the database.

-Matt

[beset7]

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Wow thanks, thats pretty sweet. I'll have to tinker a little with it later because whenever I try to playback any hand it says it cannot find that hand in the database.

-Matt

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this may have something to do with your import settings.

[GimmeDaWatch]

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Porsche,

For a frequent poster, you don't seem to be playing attention [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Nor following my blog.

I threw off 40-50k in 2 months of hell, followed by a zero month. I can't remember exactly how much, but at least 60-80k of pots in that period i was a good favourite.

Variance in PLO is huge.

Bluff and I have popularised, ok, only the two of us mention it, the 30-50-100 rule. That is , 30 buyins for taking a shot, 50 for a degree of stability, 100 to ensure u need never move down.

Having said all that, you probably arent playing that well. Take a break. Don't play for a couple of days.

Also, I think 20BB/100 is fairly unsustainable, at least at levels from 2-4 and up. Winrate is a fairly pointless statistic to get hung up about. It makes the maths geeks happy, of which 2+2 has an inordinate amount, but at best its just an indication. At worst its purely a historical fact. Just focus on good decisions.

gl

dd

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Dave, he said he was playing 25, 50, and 100 PLO on Party. I think 20bb/100 is sustainable and your experiences playing higher limits arent that comparable.

[Big Dave D]

I would tend to agree.

What I would stand by is that winrate calculations are very tenous at best and not worth focussing on. The idea that you can play 10-20k hands, divide the number you won by the number of hands and say that is how much you will win in the future is very, very dangerous thinking. Like a lot of maths bandied around in Poker its engagingly simplistic and reassurring, but also doesn't take into account of a lot of the caveats and underpinnings of what you are statistically doing.

gl

Dave d