AKo - Time for a laydown?

[Nick Royale]

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I am MUCH closer to raising this turn than I am to folding this river.

No way I'm folding this river for one bet.

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Oh my God! Is it that bad!? It can't be, i was crying and kicking my cat and all that stuff when calling the river [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Or we may draw to 7 outs if our kings are good vs villains AQ but how often is that?

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Could you explain what that means?

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4 outs to a straight and if villain has AQ we have 3 out since if a king hit we have two higher pairs...

[W. Deranged]

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I am MUCH closer to raising this turn than I am to folding this river.

No way I'm folding this river for one bet.

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Oh my God! Is it that bad!? It can't be, i was crying and kicking my cat and all that stuff when calling the river [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The salient points for me are:

1. The villain who bets out the turn is not really that passive. 14/10/2.7 or whatever may be betting a fair amount of stuff.

2. You got bet into and not check-raised. Some players may just be playing an A this way, or an A with a draw. Some meaningful amount of the time you are probably chopping.

3. The intermediate player means nothing, and the first position villain may recognize this.

4. The pot is pretty big.

[Nick Royale]

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1. The villain who bets out the turn is not really that passive. 14/10/2.7 or whatever may be betting a fair amount of stuff.

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He's not passive, but seemingly well playing after a large sample. A TAG shouldn't be betting this without anything that beats me. And the only meaningful draw I can see him betting along with an ace given his preflop raise is AcTc.

I agree this is a call on the river, but to me it seems pretty slim.

[Nick Royale]

UTG held KcTc

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UTG held KcTc

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With this information, the turn is a CLEAR FOLD.

Donk bets from TAG's when your holding TPTK are always unpleasant, I am falling into calldown mode here expecting to lose, but winning enough here to make calling profitable.