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Old 11-05-2005, 10:15 PM
MrBlueNose MrBlueNose is offline
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Default Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice

Similar happened to me. I withdrew $500 from Gamesgrid(all my funds), and I checked my Neteller the next day and there was a deposit from Gamesgrid for $1,000.

I e-mailed their support to let them know of this, and what would they want me to do. Four hours later, the extra $500 was taken out. I never received a reply from support or from anyone at Gamesgrid. I didn't care about extra bonuses or cash, but a simple "Hey thanks for catching our [censored] up" would've been nice.

I haven't played there since.
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Old 11-05-2005, 11:56 PM
vilemerchant vilemerchant is offline
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Similar happened to me. I withdrew $500 from Gamesgrid(all my funds), and I checked my Neteller the next day and there was a deposit from Gamesgrid for $1,000.

I e-mailed their support to let them know of this, and what would they want me to do. Four hours later, the extra $500 was taken out. I never received a reply from support or from anyone at Gamesgrid. I didn't care about extra bonuses or cash, but a simple "Hey thanks for catching our [censored] up" would've been nice.

I haven't played there since.

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This is actually a bit worrying that they can just 'withdraw ' money from your Neteller. I was thinking all they could is reverse a transaction, but since they took back $500 from a $1000 cashout that's obviously not the case. I wonder if some dodgy online casino I've whored in the past could suddenly decide they're in a bit of financial strife and empty out my neteller?
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:04 AM
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morally stealing is stealing.

rJ

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This is absurd. the world is not black and white like they taught you in sunday school. But whatever. If the amount of the mess up is big, empty out your neteller, make a new one, empty out paradise and just start playing at party. Paradise is not gonna hunt you down to litigate, even for 2000 bucks.
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:13 AM
rusty JEDI rusty JEDI is offline
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My guess is that RJ doesnt repost in this thread again. He is the kind of weasel who will do something like this and then never have the guts to face the music. Typical internet lurker.


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Face the music? I'm not hearing anything.

rJ
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Old 11-06-2005, 05:25 AM
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There is a difference between Illegal and Immoral.

Keeping the money may be illegal, depending on the contracts (terms and conditions) with paridise or neteller.

Morality is an individual thing. Posters here are telling the OP what the "right" and "wrong" things to do are. That is bullsh!t. I personally do not think that many types of stealing are morally wrong. It is the responsibility of a firm to protect its assets, if Paradise cannot do that, that is their problem.

If the OP doesn't feel it's wrong, then it's not for him.

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Individuals do not decide what is moral

Societies do not decide what is moral.

Only God decides.

and it isn't close.
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:06 AM
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Like if your bankroll is 10K and it's $500 who cares either way

If you are a micro limit bonus whore and every $1 matters and it's a few hundred, it's much more attractive to keep.

I have trouble feeling sorry for a multi-million dollar company as Paradise most likely is.

I know stealing is stealing or whatever, but if I saw one of the VP's of Wal-Mart driving down the street and a giant bag of money fell out of his car I'm keeping it.

If I see some guy in an unemployment line drop his wallet I'm giving it back.

Hypocritical, a little, but that's just what I would personally do.

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Cuz why on earth would you want some broke-ass guy's cheap wallet?
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Old 11-06-2005, 08:07 AM
DWarrior DWarrior is offline
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morally stealing is stealing.

rJ

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This is absurd. the world is not black and white like they taught you in sunday school. But whatever. If the amount of the mess up is big, empty out your neteller, make a new one, empty out paradise and just start playing at party. Paradise is not gonna hunt you down to litigate, even for 2000 bucks.

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How do you open a new neteller with the same personal info?
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Old 11-06-2005, 10:34 AM
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Like if your bankroll is 10K and it's $500 who cares either way

If you are a micro limit bonus whore and every $1 matters and it's a few hundred, it's much more attractive to keep.

I have trouble feeling sorry for a multi-million dollar company as Paradise most likely is.

I know stealing is stealing or whatever, but if I saw one of the VP's of Wal-Mart driving down the street and a giant bag of money fell out of his car I'm keeping it.

If I see some guy in an unemployment line drop his wallet I'm giving it back.

Hypocritical, a little, but that's just what I would personally do.

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Cuz why on earth would you want some broke-ass guy's cheap wallet?

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Old 11-06-2005, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Paradise double paid my neteller?? advice

i would give it back.
Hope u will. TO make sure i have notified the police of the issue, have fun in jail.

ps lighten up RJ
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:36 PM
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Well they very well may catch the mistake, that's why I would leave the money (both deposits) sitting in Neteller for at least a month (most accountants do things monthly).

If at any point they request it back, sure no problem its theirs.

If they do not claim it after a month I think its "safe" to cash out due to the fact they will most likely not catch it from that point on, which does not have a negative impact at you playing on there in the future.

Obviously this raises the "ethical" question of is this ok to do, but thats better suited for the religion/politics forum.

Although this has no bearing on the ethical qeustion, what is the size of the cash out? If it's like $100 bucks then screw it, just tell them. If it's like $1000 it might be worth it to take the "risk" to keep the money.

However the larger the sum of money the more they are going to notice its missing.

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I like this line!!! AND IT ISN'T CLOSE.


nh

And complain to neteller if they are taking money out of your account without your consent! that's theft! (hehehehe) No really! Give neteller a hard time! That's invasion of privacy. No one touches that money except YOU!

And that line about 'dog' (god) determining morals is a bunch of b.s.
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