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Old 10-28-2005, 12:05 PM
droolie droolie is offline
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Default Re: Shady potential fraud and thievery (long)

Here's a better plan. Transfer the money to his online poker account and play his account at high limits. If you win the money he owes you great. Transfer the winnings to your account. He aint going to the police for that.

If you lose the $700.... now that would be sort of poetic wouldn't it. Revenge is sometimes a dish served cold.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:26 PM
Hornacek Hornacek is offline
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Default Re: Shady potential fraud and thievery (long)

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I have painfully discovered that Poor Richard was right,

"Neither a borrower or lender be."!


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umm, that was ben franklin.

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HAHAHAHAAH you are both wrong. First of all, I think he's talking about Poor Richard's Almanac, which is written BY Ben Franklin. And second, I have no idea if that was in The Almanac, but it was originally from Polonius' speech to Laertes in Hamlet.
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Shady potential fraud and thievery (long)

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I have painfully discovered that Poor Richard was right,

"Neither a borrower or lender be."!






umm, that was ben franklin.

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wow.
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Old 10-28-2005, 03:14 PM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: Shady potential fraud and thievery (long)

top 6 dumbest things about this situation


1) You actually think it may not be illegal or enforceable to steal from someone's bank account
2) You actually thought it'd be a good idea to let him gamble on ur account to settle the debt
3) You didn't just transfer the $100 from your party account to your friend's account
4) You let him keep playing on your account after he lost the $100 you owed him
5) You posted online what u were gonna do before u commit this federal crime
6) You actually think we don't know it's you and not a 'friend'


enjoy!
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:49 PM
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top 6 dumbest things about this situation


1) You actually think it may not be illegal or enforceable to steal from someone's bank account
2) You actually thought it'd be a good idea to let him gamble on ur account to settle the debt
3) You didn't just transfer the $100 from your party account to your friend's account
4) You let him keep playing on your account after he lost the $100 you owed him
5) You posted online what u were gonna do before u commit this federal crime
6) You actually think we don't know it's you and not a 'friend'


enjoy!

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Four more and you earn a guest shot on Letterman! I'd suggest you just make them up, but I doubt you'd have to. Great summary.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:43 PM
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Why doesn't Sean just get 50 freaking bucks a month and get the debt equaled out slowly instead of trying to retrieve a lump sum.
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:48 AM
vilemerchant vilemerchant is offline
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Default Re: Shady potential fraud and thievery (long)

If you must do this don't be stupid enough to transfer or chip dump the money. [censored], don't even use party poker, since that will imdediately make dave suspect you, and rightly so. You'd be better off transferring the money to an online sportsbook that you yourself have no prior association with and can't be linked to in any way. Then, bet the whole $700 on one NFL match, on a team that is just about a lock to lose. You're gonna need maybe 1.5-2K of your own money to bet on the favourite at another book using your own account, if you can find the right odds (hard to find) you can even profit from betting both teams on different books. More likely tho you won't find an 'arb' and you'll book a slight loss, but at least there would be no way of tracing the crime to an account in your name. You'll get deposit bonuses on both books to offset this anyway [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Of course if the stupid team actually wins you'll need to make more of these bets to 'lose' all the money to your own account.

Whatever you decide to do, don't do it for maybe 6 months and stop hassling the guy about the money. That way by the time you get around to it he'll probably have forgotten about it and since you didn't use a poker site he won't really know it was you. Also you've probably already been logging in to his bank account to know you can pull this off, so your IP address will be fresh in the banks and your internet providers records. Wait quite a while and use a library computer. You're a dead cert to get caught if they have your IP.

Good luck.
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:53 AM
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Please note that the events in question are not about me, but rather a friend (not a "friend", a friend).

This story begins over a year ago when Sean and Dave were roomates (names changed for confidentiality reasons).

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I stopped reading here.
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:48 AM
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Ok, when last we spoke everyone advised that Sean not do this, that it was not worth it. Well, despite the fact that I showed him this post (which he laughed a bit at). He did not listen. Sean transfered 500 from Dave's account onto a third parties account on an unnamed poker site. Sean promptly lost all of it playing 2/4NL. Then, Sean transferred another 200 onto the same site, and lost it playing 2/4. Finally, he transferred 100 dollars, money he felt he deserved in recompensation for the time wasted and agitation he received. Playing a combination of 50 HU NL SNGs (where he got it up to 600), then played 4 100 single table SNG (1 3rd place and 2 2nd places, for a total of 800 in additional profit). He doesnt quite remember how he got from there to 1500, but at around 1500 he began to play 2/4 NL, got up to 2600, and then lost 2 100 SNGs, and some money at 2/4, until he was at 600. Sean then sat at 5/10NL with 600, until he had his last 632.41 in front of him, at which point the following hand occured: (suits unimportant)

Sean is in SB at a 7 handed table
He has no reads, cuz he is a fish.

UTG+1 Limps
MP Limps
Sean (SB) raises to 35 with JJ
BB Calls
UTG+1 calls
MP calls



4 to the flop of 7-10-7 (160 in pot)

Sean (SB) bets 75
BB Folds
Utg+1 Calls
MP calls

Turn 7-10-7-9 (385 in pot)
Sean is All in (517.41)
UTG+1 is All in (659.00)
MP Calls

River 7-10-7-9-j (main pot= 1934.73, side pot=283.13)

Utg+1 has AA
MP has 78
Sean has the boat!

HIGH STAKES LUCKBOX WTF!!! IM SO MAD. jkhfjkahsfjkahsfajksf

Sean currently has a little over 2000 in his online poker account, after cashing out 1000.

Ill keep you guys updated.

PS: Sean overdrafted Dave's account, and apparently the site only draws out in $50 increments, so we suspect Dave has around 300 in overdraft fees, since each fee is 31 dollars, and Sean took out 800 dollars, and overdrafted Dave's account hardcore.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: Shady potential fraud and thievery (long)

Tell him to start stealing bikes and selling them to pay off his debt.
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