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Old 12-28-2005, 10:42 AM
pokerdirty pokerdirty is offline
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Default Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

I've played on PokerRoom for the last two years because I have a Mac, and will be downgrading to a PC soon so I can play on some of the bigger, 'fishier' sites.

My question, why are we all so crazy about PartyPoker here? I feel, advertising-wise, FTPs commercials want me to play there more than Partys. PokerStars has had the last 3 WSOP ME champs. PokerRoom allows for Macs, etc etc.

So, why?
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Old 12-28-2005, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

Better affiliates
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Old 12-29-2005, 11:51 PM
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Default Re: Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

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Better affiliates

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This thread was over after the 1st reply. How it made it this far I have no idea.
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

Are Full Tilt's ads better? If I were a casual player, does the prospect of knocking heads with Phil Ivey or Howard and the rest of the sharks really want to make me play? Party Poker ads show idiots having fun. That sounds more like it.

Besides, Full Tilt is a late entry. Party Poker started big advertising right when the Poker boom started. The other sites at the time actually reduced promotion. Party was at the right place at the right time and made the right move. The rest of the poker world has been playing catch-up ever since.

Another factor is cash in. Party Poker has carried over it's experience with credit card processing from it's old porn business. I have never had a problem depositing with my MasterCard with Party. With other sites, there is now a whole 3rd Party Industry created, Neteller, firepay, epassporte, etc. to try to get your money into these sites.

Some sites have called me on the phone to verify my identity, asked for faxed copies of my DL, passport, utility bills, etc. Think a casual player wants to do all that to spew a few chips at a table?

Cash out. My first online experience was with a crypto site. Wait three weeks for a check to arrive, since that was the only cash out option I had (being a newbie, I didn't have the fancy 3rd party net accounts set up yet, who does?) Pacific Poker? Wait a week and a half for them to process your cash out request.

With Party Poker, 48 hours, bam! the cash is in my bank account. No hassle to set that up with Party. I think people underestimate what the ease of getting money in and out of a site and the casual fish player relationship. No transactions fees with Party, quick, easy, and probably the one thing they don't mess up with too much.

But don't worry. Party poker has buggy software with errors that have not been fixed for years. Every aspect of their upgrades and timing is a cluster. Their customer support is legendary for being clueless and non-responsive. It is rare for them to offer a promotion without messing the whole thing up. Their promotional point system is a joke (unless you really like beanies). ETC. ETC. ETC. ENJOY! ENJOY!

In short, they are doing everything possible to screw up their number #1 position. I think eventually their greed and general lack of customer service or care will be their undoing. They will probably make a good future MBA case study of how to destroy your lucky #1 position and fade away.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:19 PM
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Party Poker ads show idiots having fun. That sounds more like it.


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plus everything else that's been said.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

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Party Poker ads show idiots having fun. That sounds more like it.


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plus everything else that's been said.

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Dude, FTP has the ads with the guy bluffing the best with 72, and the other one with his shirt off rubbing chips on himself, that looks like fun too.

I feel like Party doesn't show idiots having fun. The one ad that I remember is a guy waiting with his ho, who is trying on some ridiculous clothing, and had something to do with a bad poker face. And their new one looked like it was done if 5 seconds by some HSers, with the shuffling the cards telling what they offer.
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Old 12-28-2005, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

Excellent analysis. I also think the fact that the graphics are the easiest on the eyes of all the sites helps too.
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Old 12-28-2005, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

They will probably make a good future MBA case study of how to destroy your lucky #1 position and fade away.
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

I agree completely about Party not deserving the #1 spot at all.

Pokerstars is a billion times better in every regard, with the exception being the look/feel of the software.

However as long as the morons are at Party, that's where I'll be also... does that make me a moron?
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Old 12-28-2005, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Why is PartyPoker the biggest online poker site?

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They will probably make a good future MBA case study of how to destroy your lucky #1 position and fade away.

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Maybe. It wouldn't surprise me if it happened. And yet, look at microsoft. They've rarely been first in a market, they've rarely been accused of having the best software and yet...somehow they never did fade away.

Historically, its rarely the pioneer in a new market that succeeds long term, its usually the second or third guy. And that pretty much adds up to .. Party.

Damn it.
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