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Old 12-15-2005, 05:03 PM
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Ethics is the study of values; you just claimed that all attempts at universal morality are immoral.

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No, I didn't.
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Old 12-15-2005, 05:24 PM
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Ethics is the study of values; you just claimed that all attempts at universal morality are immoral.
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No, I didn't.

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If Utilitarianism is oppressive, and oppression is wrong, because it involves making value judgments about each other, then all of ethics is oppressive.

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Old 12-15-2005, 05:46 PM
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Ethics is the study of values; you just claimed that all attempts at universal morality are immoral.
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No, I didn't.

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If Utilitarianism is oppressive, and oppression is wrong, because it involves making value judgments about each other, then all of ethics is oppressive.

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Making judgments *about* one another is different than making judgements *for* one another. If I decide you're a scumbag, it doesn't really impact you. If I decide you need to spend a portion of your money on something you don't really want, and then I force you to do so with threat of force, that does impact you.

Implementing utilitarianism requires a central decsion-maker who A) determines maximal utility distribution and B) carries out actions needed to achieve that distribution. The oppression is in part B.
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