Late in a Party $109 -- He's stealing...

billyjex · #1 12-06-2005, 04:20 AM

but I think he still has somewhat of a hand. Villian has been a shorty most of the time, and has pushed to stay alive but not gotten out of control. I'm not quite sure of his range here, but I think he knows he needs to push often to steal the blinds.

I'm just not quite sure if KQs is enough to call here.

There are 24 out of 600 left, and I want first.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1000 (8 handed) converter

BB (t32178)
UTG (t15166)
UTG+1 (t22878)
MP1 (t74492)
MP2 (t12278)
CO (t12860)
Hero (t16028)
SB (t6060)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Folds to MP2, MP2 pushes for 12k. Hero?

Final Pot: t1500

Exitonly · #2 12-06-2005, 04:24 AM

12 to win 15, i doubt you've got enough equity for that. On stars i'd give it more consideration, w/ the antes. But even then i think it's a fold.

#3 12-06-2005, 04:53 AM

I fold because the odds aren't very good and his stack cripples you. Also, there are people behind you. I think it may be close if you double your stack, but could be wrong on that.

ansky451 · #4 12-06-2005, 05:35 AM

Ew. Nothing in the middle, I fold prrrretty quickly, you are hardly even ahead of his range- if you are ahead at all.

#5 12-06-2005, 09:22 AM

Fold.

(seems like I always see an A when a SS pushes in EP)

Sam T. · #6 12-06-2005, 10:36 AM

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Fold.

(seems like I always see an A when a SS pushes in EP)

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He's in the CO. Still fold. Call AT+, 88+.

PFrese · #7 12-06-2005, 11:42 AM

I would probobly call. But, then again, I am a bit impatient and fish like. I think everyone who is giving this guy credit for an ace, is giving him too much credit. He easily makes this play with KQ, KJ, QJs, JTs and every underpair.

But, you fold is not terrible, either. Gambool or not to gambool that is the question.. :-)

#8 12-06-2005, 11:55 AM

If your playing for first, I think you need to gambool in these situations. He could be pushing a number of small pp's where it's about even considering the blinds in the pot.

I say push to isolate and pray.

schwza · #9 12-06-2005, 12:25 PM

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Ew. Nothing in the middle, I fold prrrretty quickly, you are hardly even ahead of his range- if you are ahead at all.

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but on the other hand, there's a chance one of the blinds will wake up with a monster.

oh no, wait, that doesn't help.

ansky451 · #10 12-06-2005, 12:45 PM

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If your playing for first, I think you need to gambool in these situations. He could be pushing a number of small pp's where it's about even considering the blinds in the pot.

I say push to isolate and pray.

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This is just ridiculous.

No one in this thread thus far who has advocated a call has shown us any ranges. What makes you think he'd push 13x w/ JTs??? That is pretty ridiculous.

Please show me a reasonable hand range which we are ahead of w/ KQs here.