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Old 12-25-2005, 06:33 PM
DrunkIrish05 DrunkIrish05 is offline
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Default I know my post-flop line is wrong, but what\'s right?

I feel like hands like this are the biggest leak in my game. Long-call type situations where I lost control of the hand. Also, this table was playing very fast with lots of big action on marginal hands. However, I had no direct read on main villain. Any suggestions on the hand would be greatly appreciated.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) converter

BB ($99)
Hero ($103.50)
MP ($53.50)
CO ($91)
Button ($69.30)
SB ($67.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, MP calls $3, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $3, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($12.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, MP folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($40.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($40.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

Final Pot: $80.50
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Old 12-25-2005, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: I know my post-flop line is wrong, but what\'s right?

Well, how about potting flop?
Other than that as played.
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Old 12-25-2005, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: I know my post-flop line is wrong, but what\'s right?

Without reads why are you checking behind on turn? [ QUOTE ]
this table was playing very fast with lots of big action on marginal hands

[/ QUOTE ] I think a minimum check-raise by an unknown means very little here, he may have a 4, a naked 5, an over pair smaller than your queens etc. etc. Checking behind on turn, to control pot size might seem like a good idea, but against an unknown I am probably making a 3/4 to full PSB. Free cards make me sick, especially when he turns over A4o on the river.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: I know my post-flop line is wrong, but what\'s right?

I think the weak flop bet is what got Hero in trouble.
Now he doesnt quite know what he's up against.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: I know my post-flop line is wrong, but what\'s right?

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Without reads why are you checking behind on turn? [ QUOTE ]
this table was playing very fast with lots of big action on marginal hands

[/ QUOTE ] I think a minimum check-raise by an unknown means very little here, he may have a 4, a naked 5, an over pair smaller than your queens etc. etc. Checking behind on turn, to control pot size might seem like a good idea, but against an unknown I am probably making a 3/4 to full PSB. Free cards make me sick, especially when he turns over A4o on the river.

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freecards to a 5 outer are not that bad imo

I like the way all streets were played
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: I know my post-flop line is wrong, but what\'s right?

Whats wrong with the flop bet? A 2/3 pot cbet is pretty standard, no?
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:33 PM
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Usually a full pot sized bet is the norm. It seems to command more respect.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:34 PM
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I have a set. I don't want respect. I want draws to come along when I'm ahead, not fold.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:44 PM
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A continuation bet is a bluff though, your bet is a value bet.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:57 PM
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A continuation bet should be the same whether you have a hand or not. To change bet sizes based on strength of hand is a tell.
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