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Old 12-03-2005, 10:35 PM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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What are you doing to go to showdown so little? You have to be folding to much or screwing up your aggression somewhere (perhaps flop where your aggression is low?).
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:10 PM
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i dont think wtsd converges over 10k hands. if youve been running bad then wtsd/wsd is a biproduct of that. there are alot of players that have wtsd of 40 but i run at 35wtsd and i cant see myself getting to 40wtsd optimally. i think wtsd has alot to do with playing styles. i put myself in alot of bet/fold situations that most people here dont like taking but i feel work for me.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:16 PM
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hi bugstud,

when i run good my wsd is around 35. my overall is around 32. i too have been continually intrigued by how all these guys play way more hand, go way farther and somehow make way more money.

i see ppl with tag or lagtag stats do the dumbest [censored] that is completely obvious. like, never fold ace high heads up no matter what the action. call turn checkraises in protected pots with ak. 3bet me with suited connectors. the reason i know they are just retarded as the rest is bc they always hit and show me the winner.

its disgusting. they think they are so smart by 3betting me with 56s or 78s after a few coldcalls.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:26 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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how much money am I costing myself by being ~27/20 with a 32 wtsd and 56/57 w@sd?

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I don't know if there is an answer to your question. Showdown stats take a very long time to converge and they're just as much an indicator of how you're running as they are of how you're playing.

My lifetime showdown stats are 35/56, but over my last 15k hands I'm running at 32/47.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:31 PM
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so in theory I was running bad for 45k hands? more excuses yay! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:35 PM
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so in theory I was running bad for 45k hands? more excuses yay! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Yeah, anyone who tells you that you can't run bad for 45k hands is full of [censored].
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:42 PM
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how often do you high wtsd guys go to showdown in the sb/bb?
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:46 PM
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Regardless, you'd probably have run better with a higher WTSD~ Re-evaluate your play in small / HU pots maybe, I doubt any reasonable player is folding too much in multiways. Overaggression is another common problem that can bring WTSD down. Historically I've had trouble keeping my WTSD high (35+), myself, so this is an interesting topic for me.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:24 AM
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is it likely that making videos will help me on this?
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:27 AM
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very.
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