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Old 02-16-2005, 06:36 AM
jon_keck jon_keck is offline
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Default AKo hand

No read on villain.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls, Button folds.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero??

Specifically looking for comments on the river, but I'm wondering if waiting for the turn to raise was good in this situation.
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:54 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Raise that flop! You gotta push the single spades off. Fold to a re-raise.

I'd probably call the river, just to see what he has for later information.
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: AKo hand

I like this flop/turn play if your opponents are tight or semi tight. You cannot protect your hand from the 1 card flush on the flop and push your equity on the turn when the blank hits. If you opponents are loose you really do want to raise on the flop to deny the odds for any straight draws.

Popping the turn can also scare people into thinking YOU have the flopped flush and you will soon know if anyone legitimately does.

this is my thinking maybe it's flawed and this part of my game is very weak (decisions on when to push your equity edge).
I make a crying call on the river.
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: AKo hand

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Raise that flop! You gotta push the single spades off. Fold to a re-raise.


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Single spades are correctly calling 2 cold even if hero raises.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:41 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Yeah, but they don't know what. I'd still raise for its read value.
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:51 AM
Losfer Losfer is offline
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We're not giving any reads, but I've got to believe that a raise on the flop gets most of the small clubs, and some of the medium clubs to fold. No?
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:02 AM
Transference Transference is offline
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I pop this flop, heres 3 reasons why

1) I often expect to be ahead.
2) Mulitple opponents might be chasing the same draw, I want their money in the pot.
3) I'll have a very good idea on the turn if im beat.
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: AKo hand

hey jon, your play was fine on the first three streets. you let position play out by just calling on the flop and i see nothing wrong with popping the turn instead of the flop. as for the river, i sigh and call, but remember to take nots on what the SB had if you happen to play another hand with the SB.

best of luck,
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