I hate getting put to the test...

ggbman · #1 09-23-2005, 03:54 PM

Villian in this hand was laggy and aggressive, and i felt that he was little fired up from a previous hand i played against, which is here:

Party Poker 50/100 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
6 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, SB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB folds.

Final Pot: 8 BB

This was two hands later i belive, so i don't think he needs a hand here. What is your action and why?

Party Poker 50/100 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
5 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, Button calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, ...

flawless_victory · #2 09-23-2005, 03:57 PM

if you hadnt reraised A3o, you wouldnt have this problem.
id lay it down on the turn.

ggbman · #3 09-23-2005, 03:58 PM

This is true, but i always wouldn't have ended heads up against a button raiser who plays poorly post flop with hand that probably has positive equity against his range and gotten some dead money in the pot.

CardSharpCook · #4 09-23-2005, 04:02 PM

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if you hadnt reraised A3o, you wouldnt have this problem.
id lay it down on the turn.

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because you're supposed to do what with A3o in the SB vs a Lag? Flawless, you've seemed bitter of late. Trouble at home?

As for the hand, I think this is a fold, even vs. this guy.

Danenania · #5 09-23-2005, 04:03 PM

I question how positive your effective equity can be considering your opponent is aggressive and has the Button.

flawless_victory · #6 09-23-2005, 04:04 PM

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with hand that probably has positive equity against his range

[/ QUOTE ]if even this was true (i kinda doubt it), you are still not allin here.
BTW/ i like your play on all streets in the first hand...

ggbman · #7 09-23-2005, 04:08 PM

By the way, i just wanted to make clear that i'm not soo in love with 3 betting this every time, i think this can be a hnad where i might be convinced otherwise, i don't people to think i'm not receptive about the preflop logic. After thinking about some more, i still like my 3 bet, but it's closer than i orgininally thought.

Gabe

Danenania · #8 09-23-2005, 04:17 PM

I don't get that sense at all from your posts, fwiw. I find you one of the more open minded and improvement oriented posters on the forum. Plus, if you knew it was right then why would you post it? Right? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Subfallen · #9 09-23-2005, 04:17 PM

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with hand that probably has positive equity against his range

[/ QUOTE ]if even this was true (i kinda doubt it), you are still not allin here.
BTW/ i like your play on all streets in the first hand...

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If Button raises top 50% of his hands...

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

12,410,779,392 games 19.480 secs 637,103,664 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 49.5896 % 45.97% 03.62% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q3s+, J5s+, T7s+,
98s, A2o+, K2o+, Q5o+, J8o+, T8o+ }
Hand 2: 50.4104 % 46.79% 03.62% { A4o }
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Exactly the sort of edge you want to be pushing out of position against an aggro player likely to put you to the test on the turn... [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

TimM · #10 09-23-2005, 04:34 PM

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equity (%)
Hand 1: 49.5896 %
Hand 2: 50.4104 %

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This equity does not account for the blinds. For $125 he bought 50.4% of a $350 pot.

Still there is the problem of how to play the rest of the hand correctly, but on equity alone it's not as close as PS makes it appear.