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Old 04-29-2005, 04:46 PM
Rick Diesel Rick Diesel is offline
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Default For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

I have been seriously considering quitting the regular job to become a full-time poker pro. I have been charting my play over the last 6 months, but this is still a ridiculously small sample to work with. I have been playing exclusively SNGs on Stars, ranging from the $55 to the $109.

Here are my stats over the last 6 months.

1,000 SNGs
23.7% ROI (variance between $55 and $109 is immaterially small, but I actually do slightly better at the 109s)
3 tables at a time
Average a little less than 1 hour per SNG

So I did some math, and found out that if I maintain my current ROI, playing 3 tables at a time, for 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, 45 weeks per year, playing an even mixture of $55 and $109s, I would make approximately $115,000 in a year.

Now my question is:
Is a 23.7% ROI sustainable while playing 3 tables at a time, 45 hours a week, for 45 weeks?

Additional results: In case this helps in any way, in the 1,000 SNGs, i have the following places...
1st - 160
2nd - 142
3rd - 138

Thank you for any comments.
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Old 04-29-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

45 hrs a week is the perfect recipe for burnout. I'd try your figures again with 20-30 hrs/week.

edit: I'm in college and don't play for a living
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Old 04-29-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

23.7% is very sustainable, you might even be able to improve it.. I dont know 1st hand, but from what I understand, very good players can be at 35-40% ROI.. In the smaller 10+1 and 20+2's that I play anyway..
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

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23.7% is very sustainable, you might even be able to improve it.. I dont know 1st hand, but from what I understand, very good players can be at 35-40% ROI.. In the smaller 10+1 and 20+2's that I play anyway..

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I definitely think that I can improve on this, as these figures are based on my moving up from the $33s and I was looking for a very conservative figure.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

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45 hrs a week is the perfect recipe for burnout. I'd try your figures again with 20-30 hrs/week.

edit: I'm in college and don't play for a living

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I just figured that since I currently average about 55-60 hours per week at my job, that 40-45 hours per week would be relatively easy.

That being said, this is precisely the feedback that I am looking for. Thank you for your opinion.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

This is the wrong forum for this topic.

"but I actually do slightly better at the 109s"

Highly doubt you will longterm.

"3 tables at a time
Average a little less than 1 hour per SNG"

Learn to play more than 3. A little less than 1hr/sng is slow.

"So I did some math, and found out that if I maintain my current ROI, playing 3 tables at a time, for 9 hours a day, 5 days a week, 45 weeks per year, playing an even mixture of $55 and $109s, I would make approximately $115,000 in a year."

I could make just as much with less hours and a slightly higher ROI at the $22s.

"s a 23.7% ROI sustainable while playing 3 tables at a time, 45 hours a week, for 45 weeks?"

23% not at the $109s. 45hrs a week is a alot. 45 weeks a year is alot too. The hours might be sustainable, the ROI won't be.

"but this is still a ridiculously small sample to work with"

1000 isn't that small. Jump back to the $22s or $33s and learn to 6-8 table. Then jump back up. $100k+ will still be attainable with significantly less ROI and hours.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

I know a few people who have burned out trying to play 45 hours a week. It is tough. It is super tedious, sometimes frustrating, etc. If you want to play that much, just make sure you have ample distractions for much needed breaks. With SNGs this is actually probably more doable than grinding ring games, since you can start 3, and an hour later finish up and play some NBA Jam for a quick break, then get back to 3 more SnGs.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

What is the right forum then? 1-table tourneys? General?

I actually looked through the forums to decide which one to post to and went with this one.

Also, how do you 6-8 table? Do you have two monitors? If possible, is there a link that you can hook me up to that would show me how to hook up two monitors on one computer.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

"23.7% is very sustainable, you might even be able to improve it.. I dont know 1st hand, but from what I understand, very good players can be at 35-40% ROI.. In the smaller 10+1 and 20+2's that I play anyway.."

"and I was looking for a very conservative figure."

That's an unrealistic figure, not conservative. Conservative would be low teens at the $55s and 8-9% at the $109s for a decent player. Solid players will hit high teens low 20s for the $55s and mid-high teens at the $109s. This is 4+tabling.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: For those that play online for a living, how realistic is this?

how do you have 1000 posts and not know where to post [censored]?
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