Is this Phil H whining again?

Easy E · #1 05-14-2003, 05:33 PM

Is it just me, or should I get Phil a crying towel?

http://www.cardplayer.com/?sec=afeat...p;art_id=13265

Michael Davis · #2 05-14-2003, 05:40 PM

Easy E,

You need to show some class when you post about Hellmuth.

-Mike

Easy E · #3 05-14-2003, 11:59 PM

check the other responses out.
Phil is the former world champ and poker "pro"- he should ACT like one.

His attitude drives me CRAZY! Sorry, but it really rubs me the wrong way.

I think Phil need to grow up.... and so do many others.

Did you read the article? And you had no problems with Phil using his position at CP to complain about the play of others?

Michael Davis · #4 05-18-2003, 09:25 PM

Easy E,

Sorry I took so long to respond, I hope you get this.

I was merely making a reference to Hellmuth's immature actions on the WPT, when he told the Magician to "have some class when you shake my hand." I was being sarcastic, and attacking the irony of Hellmuth's comment, not you. I apologize if I have offended.

-Mike

HDPM · #5 05-14-2003, 06:27 PM

What an awful article. WTF is he thinking to write that? The funniest was the line that went, "then he gave Doyle 150000." Here's a pro complaining that a guy gave money to a better player? Huh? He would not have complained if the money found its way to his stack I think. What Phil did is a lot worse than just crying. He needlessly called these guys out. Not exactly what you want if your goal is to improve poker and promote tournamnets bla bla bla

AceHigh · #6 05-14-2003, 07:54 PM

Yes, he's a jerk.

Why doesn't Phil talk about the hand in an Omaha final table at the WSOP where he bet the wrong end of a straight draw and knocked Men out of the hand and he ended up losing to K-high? His friend Andy Glazer even reported it as a bad play.

bernie · #7 05-14-2003, 08:43 PM

he's an idiot. one of the most overrated players ever. actually thinks a tournament has a long run. yet he plays just as bad at times. the mope. i love to hear him whine and table coach at the table. he still is trying to find out how he almost went broke a little while back. my respect for tourney players grows.... yeah right! hahaha

will he ever come off his pedestal? doubt it.

b

Ed Miller · #8 05-15-2003, 03:15 AM

jasonHoldEm · #9 05-15-2003, 04:07 AM

Quote: "Maybe they’re on to something new regarding no-limit hold’em strategy."

You mean like raising with 32o, Phil??

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mrbaseball · #10 05-15-2003, 10:45 AM

Yeah, watching some of Phils plays on WPT makes you wonder how this guy ever won anything? But watch all the players in these tournaments. Great poker play doesn't generally win these things. Getting the right cards at the right time does. Getting lucky in your all in face off races does too.

I have been playing a lot of small NLHE touneys lately and watching a lot of this stuff on TV. The luck factor is so much bigger in NLHE tourneys than in ring games it's scary. I honestly believe that I could sit at any final NLHE table ever with any hand picked group of past champions and have a decent shot at winning. Read the McManus (pos 5th street) book. He didn't seem to have much of a clue if you ask me [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] I believe it takes skill to get in position to win a tournament and luck to actually win it. But throughout any NLHE tournament luck will be a much larger factor than in any ring game ever.