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Old 10-10-2005, 08:32 PM
Drontier Drontier is offline
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Default Can someone explain the concept of value-bluff?

I understand that its when you bet with a hand that could fold a better hand or get a worse hand to call. But when you are uncertain, isn't this usually just spewing as USUALLY better hands will call and worse hands will fold? I really can't see scenarios to apply this to(besides like one, but it feels like more of a squeeze play than a value bluff). Can someone illustrate examples? thanks.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:47 PM
Drontier Drontier is offline
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Default Re: Can someone explain the concept of value-bluff?

thanks guys! any other replies? :P
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:55 PM
partygirluk partygirluk is offline
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Default Re: Can someone explain the concept of value-bluff?

Pot is 6BB. Poker theory says a bluff needs to be successful 1/7 times for it to be break even. If the bluff is successful 99/700 times then it is a bad bluff. BUT if, in addition to this you sometimes get called by a worse hand it become a good bet - a value bluff.
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Old 10-10-2005, 09:57 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: Can someone explain the concept of value-bluff?

Are you referring to a situation where you simultaneously bet for value and as a bluff? Because this is bad practice. If you bet for value, you expect weaker hands to call enough times. If you bluff, you expect better hands to fold enough times.

Occasionally your bluff will be called by marginally weaker hands, like a worse A-high, or your value bet will earn a weak call because some draws just missed, but I can't think of a situation where you base an important decision on this concept that wouldn't have been made anyway.

Most of the time "value bluff" thinking will cause you to misinterpret the situation and make some (probably marginal) errors, IMO.
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