($10) a KQ hand.

#1 12-13-2005, 12:04 PM

UTG was tight (I've played him before) and UTG+1 was limping a LOT. No read on BB.

Was this line OK? Anyone folding PF?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

SB (t865)
BB (t955)
UTG (t975)
UTG+1 (t500)
MP1 (t1708)
MP2 (t1057)
Hero (t745)
CO (t470)
Button (t725)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, 2 folds, Hero calls t30, 3 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (t135) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t85, BB folds, UTG calls t85, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t305) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (t305) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t305

tigerite · #2 12-13-2005, 12:05 PM

This is why I fold KQ preflop most times, especially on CO+1, especially with only two limpers.

tigerite · #3 12-13-2005, 12:06 PM

You should definitely value bet the river though. A smaller pp than a Q will call, I would think.

#4 12-13-2005, 01:44 PM

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This is why I fold KQ preflop most times, especially on CO+1, especially with only two limpers.

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You fold Pre-flop? No way. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
But you like more limpers to play this? I was thinking I would rather it be heads up...particularly with the looser opponent. But I don't think I can raise given my stack size. I also think I should have bet the river, but I'd hate an all-in push behind me if he thought his A's full/mid-PP was good, or slow played his A, or was just bluffing.

junkmail3 · #5 12-13-2005, 01:55 PM

I doubt he would check the A on the river after you checked behind on the turn.

So, a bet is in order.

Preflop at level2 with 2 limpers, this is a pretty easy fold. If it's sooted however -

tigerite · #6 12-13-2005, 02:44 PM

Mike KQ is just not that good, honestly. It's certainly not worth a raise or bothering about "getting heads up" with, in the early stages of an SNG. Better just to fold.

Suited.. meh, well, I don't hate a limp so much. Depends on my mood and the table for that one. I'd still not raise with it though.

tewall · #7 12-13-2005, 03:43 PM

The chance of you being behind is so small as to be virtually non-existant. After you have been so passive, there's no way anyone with a hand that can beat yours is not going to bet on the river.

I wouldn't want to play KQo against many opponents unless the situation was so good you couldn't turn it down. With a hand like that, you're hoping for a straight or two pair, (with no third straight card), and the odds are pretty long against that.

Kurn, son of Mogh · #8 12-13-2005, 04:02 PM

Out of position, I fold KQo most of the time during the early rounds, but in position I'll take a flop with it and trust myself to not get fancy thereafter.

tigerite · #9 12-13-2005, 04:25 PM

Sure, but he's on CO+1. On the button or sometimes CO? Yeah - I limp deffo. But not here.