Navy Seals vs Army Rangers vs other special forces vs UFC

The Truth · #1 12-08-2005, 02:16 AM

In hand to hand combat, who would you bet on. Which group of trained fighters.

I would have to say the UFC guys. After all, they fight hand to hand for a living, it seems like they would be the best in the world.

From what I understand of special forces training, the hand to hand combat part is usually a really condensed version of what the UFC guys get. Seals do it for a month or 2, UFC guys train it for life?

Had some discussion about it before, figured I would pitch it here.

blake

Reef · #2 12-08-2005, 02:17 AM

Hands down the UFC guys will win with little to no contest for obvious reasons.

But if the question was "who is more badass", then there might be a debate

housenuts · #3 12-08-2005, 02:18 AM

the ufc guys would win hands down. it is their job. hand to hand combat is like maybe 1/16 of special forces members jobs.

you have to keep weight classes in mind as well. i would surmise that bigger special forces guys would be able to beat down on light weight ufc dudes

slickpoppa · #4 12-08-2005, 02:19 AM

UFC guys, and its not even close.

The Truth · #5 12-08-2005, 02:29 AM

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Hands down the UFC guys will win with little to no contest for obvious reasons.

But if the question was "who is more badass", then there might be a debate

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Yes, I dont think the UFC guys would be much competition in the "who is more badass" category. We would have to take them out and just discuss special forces units.

blake

ScottyP431 · #6 12-08-2005, 02:33 AM

RE:All

UFC guys might not stand as good of a chance if killing your opponent is involved/allowd. For example, seals are not trained to get their targets to "tap out", but they are trained to kill in unarmed combat. The idea that special forces get a cliffs notes version of UFC techniques is... musguided at best. In UFC there are a lack of eye gouges, through attacks etc.

#7 12-08-2005, 02:35 AM

Wow, I didn't think I would be in the minority here. First off, is it to the death? By KO? I mean, yea its UFCs guys job to fight, but navy seals and other special forces have to be trained to KILL people, not just beat them, in hand to hand combat. I think that after being restrained by the rules of UFC (posted elsewhere here i think) those guys wouldn't be ready for an all out fight.

#8 12-08-2005, 02:37 AM

In a UFC match, "UFC fighters" most of the time. In a death match, special forces most of the time.

slickpoppa · #9 12-08-2005, 02:56 AM

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UFC guys might not stand as good of a chance if killing your opponent is involved/allowd. For example, seals are not trained to get their targets to "tap out", but they are trained to kill in unarmed combat. The idea that special forces get a cliffs notes version of UFC techniques is... musguided at best. In UFC there are a lack of eye gouges, through attacks etc.

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Gimme a break. It doesnt take training to know how to gouge somebody's eyes out. And how much time do you think special forces actually waste trainign to kill someone with their bare hands? They carry guns for a reason

KDawgCometh · #10 12-08-2005, 03:03 AM

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Wow, I didn't think I would be in the minority here. First off, is it to the death? By KO? I mean, yea its UFCs guys job to fight, but navy seals and other special forces have to be trained to KILL people, not just beat them, in hand to hand combat. I think that after being restrained by the rules of UFC (posted elsewhere here i think) those guys wouldn't be ready for an all out fight.

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there is a lot of stuff that Jiu-Jitsu practioners and Judo Practioners learn that is never used in competetive matches, namely some of the nastiest stuff out there. Remember, the original intention of Judo was to maim someone in one throw, Jiu-Jitsu is a fighting art where street defense is a major thing. I would bet you that Royce Gracie could kill someone with what he knows a lot faster then a SEAL or other spec op could kill him