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Old 12-07-2005, 06:23 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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live 20/40 game wednesday afternoon at bay101

i just came back from the bathroom and wandering around and i post my blind in the CO (BB + SB). its a pretty good game and i'm up a bit off of some sets i flopped.

An aggressive asian surpisingly limps UTG. Bland UTG+1 and UTG+2 limps. A young'n trying to play well limps in MP1. Bland MP2 follows suit. Then the hijack ruins the fun and raises.

I look down at my cards and see Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and make the call. The button and the SB both fold. BB calls.

8 way action for 17 small bets.

Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB checks. UTG bets. UTG+1 folds. UTG+2 folds. MP1 raises. MP2 folds. Hijack 3-bets. I make a deep reach into my stack and cap it.

BB quickly gets out of the way. UTG stares for a long hard second, shakes his head muttering something about AT and folds. MP1 quietly does the same and the hijack calls. Just me and him heads up now.

Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG jumps out of his seat and moans. Hijack checks. I check.

River: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

He checks and I check.

He flips over JJ and I muck.

And UTG wants to kill me.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:49 PM
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Why did you cap it on the flop?
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:53 PM
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For the "free" card he took on the turn?
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:54 PM
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For the "free" card he took on the turn?

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He might also be trying to "Buy" some outs in this giant pot.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:21 PM
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No chance he lays down when the ten pairs? If not I love it.

-DeathDonkey
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:38 PM
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I understand the free card part, but what do you mean buying outs?
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:39 PM
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I understand the free card part, but what do you mean buying outs?

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If our Q is dominated it's not an out; if we get a better Q to fold by capping we purchased outs. Etc.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:03 PM
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Q: May I have a free card please?

A: Sure! That'll be $80!
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:07 PM
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just did the math. With 4 outs and assuming that you will indeed get a free river, this is play is EV neutral. In this case you actually have 5 outs, so it is a little better. I am amazed, however, that two players folded after betting and raising. Who lays down on the flop in live play?
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:14 PM
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just did the math. With 4 outs and assuming that you will indeed get a free river, this is play is EV neutral. In this case you actually have 5 outs, so it is a little better. I am amazed, however, that two players folded after betting and raising. Who lays down on the flop in live play?

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That's assuming you get to see the river with your flop cap right? (i.e. no more than the 4 small bets go in)
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