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Old 12-29-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t60 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t825)
UTG+1 (t580)
MP1 (t1750)
HERO (t1055)
MP3 (t1175)
CO (t840)
Button (t1115)
SB (t1690)
BB (t970)

Preflop: HERO is in MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, HERO calls t30, <font color="red">MP3 raises t60</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, BB calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, HERO calls t30

Flop: (t90) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, HERO? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

No reads.

Bet out or hope preflop raiser (MP3) bets so i can check raise?

and why is that line better?
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

Giving a free card sucks so bad that it doesn't seem to be worth the risk to me so I bet.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

I'd defninitely bet this flop. Can't afford to give free cards and the pot is already large.

BTW, pot size is wrong on the flop as the hand is posted.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:42 PM
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I bet out on the flop. Your hand is far too vulnerable for the opponents to take a free card and catch up. If mp3 checks, any overcard on the turn practically kills your hand and you won't be able to take much pressure at all. It would be nice to have some kind of read on MP3. If I was him sitting with high cards, I would take a free card as it seems foolish cont. betting into 3 opponents on a flop any pair/piece of the flop will look him up on.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

&lt;&lt;Caveat-limit player converting to NL&gt;&gt;

I'm putting in a pot-sized bet here. But I'm very confused about the pf limp. Can you explain this to me?

-Jaran
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Old 12-29-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

[ QUOTE ]
&lt;&lt;Caveat-limit player converting to NL&gt;&gt;

I'm putting in a pot-sized bet here. But I'm very confused about the pf limp. Can you explain this to me?

-Jaran

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Most good STT players advocate limping behind with pocket pairs below Queens in the early levels of the tourney. Basically just playing them for set value.
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

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Most good STT players advocate limping behind with pocket pairs below Queens in the early levels of the tourney. Basically just playing them for set value.

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why yes, i love playing JJ-TT for set value in a 1000 chip game.

not. limping behind JJ-TT for set value in early levels at the 55s is playing scared. really.
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

Dont monkey around with this. The pot is big already. You want to take it down now without a fight. Your hand is too vulnerable. There is only one player left to act and even though he raised PF doesnt mean he is going to bet.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

I think I would t150 the flop and then be very cautious if raised or called.

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Old 12-29-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: $55: Overpair on paired board- Bet out or check raise?

I'm betting the pot here and folding to a re-raise. If I get called behind, I'm checking the turn.
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