Bellhorn.

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they have similar OPS stats but are light years apart as players

considering they played the same position, this statement is hilarious.

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I give up. Put him in Cooperstown already.

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I give up. Put him in Cooperstown already.

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for one really good year? no way, that would be silly. lets just acknowledge it happened.

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for one really good year? no way, that would be silly. lets just acknowledge it happened.

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Silly? No way. They could put him in the journeyman's wing and no I will not acknowledge that an average year is a really good year . Unless you're arguing it was a really good year for him which it was because the guy in 9 major league seasons averaged 66 games a year.

IT WAS NOT AN AVERAGE YEAR. Don't be a blockhead about it, and no he doesn't need glasses. Toro may be a nerd but he obviously doesn't want to be mistaken for a stats nerd.

An 800+ OPS for a second baseman is great. It may be par for some positions but it places a second baseman in the top 3 in the league in that position for any given year usually.

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Well let's all just sit tight for a few days and see what team picks up arguably the best 2nd baseman in the AL.

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I guarantee you that some team will pick him up. Maybe even the Yankees if no one else gets him.

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for one really good year? no way, that would be silly. lets just acknowledge it happened.

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Silly? No way. They could put him in the journeyman's wing and no I will not acknowledge that an average year is a really good year . Unless you're arguing it was a really good year for him which it was because the guy in 9 major league seasons averaged 66 games a year.

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how hard would it be to go to ESPN.com and compare his stats to other 2B from last year? really. since you are aware that he has averaged 66 games a year, why didn't you bother to look that up?

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um no. we are agruing about 2004 and you are using this year and the years before 04 to make a point. did he suck this year? yes. did he suck prior to 04? no, but he wasnt all the field all that much.

2004:

Bellhorn
AB 523 17hr 6 SB 1CS OBP .373 SLG .444

Soriano
AB 608 28HR 18SB 5CS OBP .324 SLG. 484

Ummmmm, hello?

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Silly? No way. They could put him in the journeyman's wing and no I will not acknowledge that an average year is a really good year

who are you comparing his 04 season to? ruth in 1920? or a typical 2B's year?

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I used my eyes. Stats are for fanatasy leagues.

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So, tell me. How many times last year did you observe the following players, and how did Mark Bellhorn stack up to them?

Mark Loretta
Jeff Kent
Marcus Giles
Ray Durham
Alfonso Soriano
Ron Belliard
Juan Uribe
Orlando Hudson
Jose Vidro
D'Angelo Jiminez
Tony Womack
Luis Castillo
Placido Polanco
Adam Kennedy
Bret Boone
Omar Infante