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Old 12-24-2005, 06:24 PM
aLOWdAkING aLOWdAkING is offline
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Default TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

I raise TT in the UTG+1, BB calls.

Flop Kxx, checks, I bet, he calls.

Turn Ace, checks, I bet, he raises... easy fold vs an unknown? Is there any other line I could have taken such as check the turn since he probably won't call with a worse hand but could bluff with one?
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Old 12-24-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

Ya, a fold is standard here.
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Old 12-24-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

Check the turn and call the river, pot isn't that big you can induce a bluff and he probably hasn't got that many outs if your ahead.
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Old 12-24-2005, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

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Check the turn and call the river, pot isn't that big you can induce a bluff and he probably hasn't got that many outs if your ahead.

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That would cost you the same as betting the turn and folding to a checkraise, but if you are ahead you are giving up value for a bet he would have called, as well as offering a free card. He could have three to eight outs.
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Old 12-24-2005, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

I can see that line, but I'll often check against loose-aggressive opponents, against a loose-passive easy bet/fold on the turn. A TAG makes a play for the pot on this dry flop often?
How often do we get check-raised on a bluff here? How often do they call a turn bet with a worse hand, split pairs with the x will give up with the raise some of the time, no? Also, we can get a shot at spiking our 2 outs if behind not much but it helps.
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Old 12-24-2005, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

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Check the turn and call the river, pot isn't that big you can induce a bluff and he probably hasn't got that many outs if your ahead.

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Only on very specific players should this line be used. People will incorrect call gutshot draws and low pairs all the time, so only against a thinking agro player should you try this line.

Against an unknown, I think its an easy turn bet, easy turn fold, easy hand to play because theres no way you're good here if he fights back :P
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Old 12-24-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

yah check the turn
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Old 12-25-2005, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

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Check the turn and call the river, pot isn't that big you can induce a bluff and he probably hasn't got that many outs if your ahead.

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That would cost you the same as betting the turn and folding to a checkraise, but if you are ahead you are giving up value for a bet he would have called, as well as offering a free card. He could have three to eight outs.

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Worse hands are folding pretty often, that's why a turn check is being considered.
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Old 12-25-2005, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

I think the flop blanks are sometimes important, can you tell us what they are?
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Old 12-25-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: TT facing a c/r with 2 overcards, standard fold?

Forget, I think they wre 3 and 9.
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