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Old 12-25-2005, 10:15 AM
Jack of Arcades Jack of Arcades is offline
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Default LaDanian Tomlinson for MVP

With this week's brutal showing against Kansas City, LaDanian Tomlinson will most likely finish the year with only 5 100 yard rushing games and only 6 games with a YPC over 4, including games of 17 for 7 yards (week 7 @ PHI) and 19 for 52 yards (Week 2 @ DEN)

I don't think anyone doubts LaDanian's abilities, but let's be honest here. This is the second year in a row LaDanian's been injured and it's limited his effectiveness. People preach "give the ball to LaDanian" and "Tomlinson = win" but let's be realistic. Running backs take tons of punishment and giving the ball to one running back 400 times/year is not a great way to keep your star healthy

It's not really a knock on Tomlinson if he can't consistently stay healthy after getting the ball 375 times/year for six years; the only guys that have really been able to do that are guys like Emmitt.

For the last two years, San Diego backups Jesse Chatman and Michael Turner have rushed for 6.0 YPC while only getting about 60 touches apiece. Is it such a stretch to think that increasing the touches of Michael Turner and keeping LaDanian to around 300/year that LaDanian could stay healthy and increase his effectiveness? Sure, he might rush for a couple hundred yards less but every time Tomlinson touches the ball there's an increased chance that he takes an awkard fall or his knee gets McGahee'd, not to mention just general wear and tear.

Running backs have incredibly short careers. Those that have the fortune not to surfer career ending injuries lose their knees. Giving the ball so much to any running back is insane. Not only do you increase their chance of injury, you decrease their effectiveness.

I'm not arguing for Tomlinson to split time with Michael Turner or anything, but it really doesn't make sense to give LaDanian much more than 300 touches per year. Around that barrier, RBs start to tire out and lose their effectiveness.

For evidence, let's look at Edgerrin James. In his first 7 games (182 touches) he was only held to under 4 yards/carry once - 3.8 ypc in the opener against Baltimore.

His last 8 games (222 touches) he's averaged less than 4ypc 6 times, including the last 4 games of 3.8, 3.1, 1.9, and 3.2 ypc. He last had 4 ypc was against Pittsburgh in Week 12 - the game that put him at roughly 300 touches for the season. (Please note that his DPAR numbers, DVOA, etc have dropped as well, it's just easier to use ypc to make my case).

Running backs should be seen somewhat as starting pitchers who can come back into the game. If you could swap your starter with a reliever at anytime, you'd probably bring in the reliever to face really easy batters and save your pitcher's arm so he could face more of the tough batters. Then once he gets to around 100-120 pitches for the day, he comes out. You might keep him in longer if it's really necessary, but most coaches follow that guideline (Dusty, I'm lookin' at you).

Of course the analogy isn't perfect, but running backs get tired just like pitchers do. To expect them to touch the ball 375, 400, or in cases like Ricky Williams, 450 times a year and keep their effectiveness you're going to be disappointed. I think we can see that in the last two years of LaDanian Tomlinson.
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: LaDanian Tomlinson for MVP

BTW, CliffNotes:

-Giving the ball to any RB 400 times a year will hurt them and tire them out
-LaDanian's touched the ball a lot every year of his career
-Tomlinson got hurt two years in a row, and both years he had talented backups only getting around 60 touches
-Edge this year saw a decline in his effectiveness at around 300 touches.
-Give the ball to the Burner more and Tomlinson will most likely stay healthier and more effective.
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:50 AM
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I agree 100%. LDT is one of the best running backs of the young generation and at this rate, he's not going to be able to walk in 2 years. You see the same thing happening with Priest and if things continue, it's only time before you see the same from Alexander.
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Old 12-26-2005, 05:23 AM
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You see the same thing happening with Priest and if things continue, it's only time before you see the same from Alexander.

[/ QUOTE ]watch some more Seahawks games, and you will see there is a difference between Shaun and some of these other guys. He is much more of a finesse back, and he utilizes his blockers much more than some of these other guys. As of right now, Shaun looks more like an Emmit type of player than a Priest type of player.
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:07 AM
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Gotta be SA
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Old 12-26-2005, 11:04 AM
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You see the same thing happening with Priest and if things continue, it's only time before you see the same from Alexander.

[/ QUOTE ]watch some more Seahawks games, and you will see there is a difference between Shaun and some of these other guys. He is much more of a finesse back, and he utilizes his blockers much more than some of these other guys. As of right now, Shaun looks more like an Emmit type of player than a Priest type of player.

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That is true, but he's still getting hit a lot. 351 rushing attempts already this year and you know he's gonna get the rock in the last game to break the TD record. 353 total last year. 2003 he had 326 total but also had double the receptions which also brings him to around the same amount of touches. After that, 295 & 309 rushes per year.

I know he's your star, but it's only time before those hits catchup to him, and let's not forget that Shaun will be 29 next year. Seattle needs a backup to take some of the load off of Shaun, same with LDT and the same with LJJ (310 rushes and Preist started the season? Do you want to kill this guy already?!?!).
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:49 AM
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I know he's your star, but it's only time before those hits catchup to him, and let's not forget that Shaun will be 29 next year

[/ QUOTE ] I agree, I think last year, this year, and next year will be his three best seasons, with this year being the best. As a Seahawks fan, I really don't want to see more than a 3 year deal for Alexander in the offseason.
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Old 12-25-2005, 12:10 PM
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I could not agree more. I love early-season LT. It's painful watching him limp through the late season like this.
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:34 PM
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What does your subject have to do with your post?
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:59 PM
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MVP should go like this:

1. Peyton Manning
2. Shaun A
3. LT
4. Carson Palmer
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