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Old 12-04-2005, 03:36 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default What do you think of this push?

It's early... you like this push to avoid seeing a flop and pick up all those limpers' chips? Don't be afraid to call me a retard. I usually don't play NL or tourneys and I blow.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) converter

MP2 (t1880)
CO (t4120)
Button (t1070)
Hero (t1580)
BB (t1350)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1370)
MP1 (t1130)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t80</font>, Button calls t80, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1590</font>...

Results:

<font color="white"> no peeking. I'll post them later. </font>
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:44 PM
X-Man X-Man is offline
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Default Re: What do you think of this push?

I think I would push here too CO doesnt really need a hand to raise here due to his triple up and I assume(correct me if im wrong)his looseness was how he did this and the button probably knows this so is calling with a weaker hand due to his position,hoping they would both fold,just have to hope the button doesn't have a monster,that said a call i think would be OK here you can see a flop relatively cheap with a premium hand and play it from there not having committed many chips
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:49 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: What do you think of this push?

OK, this was basically my thinking as well. Everyone folded, I picked up a couple hundred chips.

Just felt a little donkish to push on the first blind level... but the situation seemed to call for it.
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:54 PM
Hendricks433 Hendricks433 is offline
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Default Re: What do you think of this push?

The push was horrible. The only hands that are really gonna call you are QQ,KK,AA and then AK which is a coin flip that you dont want. JJ isnt that great of a hand. Its pretty vulnerable. I would maybe reraise but I might just call behind.
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:18 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Re: What do you think of this push?

Yeah, but what if I didn't want a call?
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: What do you think of this push?

What was the buyin? I've recently started shoving JJ in spots just like that in the 10+1s and I'm getting calls from 66, A9, even KJ.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: What do you think of this push?

Sorry, the buyin is $5+.5

CO was raising a lot preflop and seemed loose.
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: What do you think of this push?

It's not likely that AK will call here, so the only worry is QQ, KK or AA. None of these hands appear very likely. So there's probably a 90% chance or so the all-in will pick up about 200 chips, and mabye a couple % chance of doubling up and around 5% or so of going broke. Averaging it all up, it looks like it's a +EV by about 150 or so.

If he calls to see the flop, that's no doubt +EV as well, but as much as pushing? That's doubtful. The push has a greater volitility, but it's hardly a terrible play.
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:51 PM
Matt R. Matt R. is offline
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Default Re: What do you think of this push?

I don't like it, I think the raise is way too big. I would call, with my 2nd choice being a raise to ~t300 or so. I'd much prefer a call though because I'd hate it if someone pushed over me.
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Old 12-04-2005, 04:21 PM
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I don't think this is too terrible. But I think I would have reraised to about 400.
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