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#13
09-27-2005, 11:20 AM
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Re: How often does this line mean a strong hand?
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why not bet the flop? [/ QUOTE ] He did. I check the river to an aggro player. I bet the river vs a passive player. Turn check is something you gotta do sometimes, so no real comment there. -blake 
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#14
09-27-2005, 01:17 PM
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Re: How often does this line mean a strong hand?
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What % do you estimate he is bluff raising? I normally bet the turn here. [/ QUOTE ] Am I correct to assume you guys usually call down when you get raised in this spot? Thanks, Cartman
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#15
09-27-2005, 04:49 PM
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Re: How often does this line mean a strong hand?
I find that these raises are usually a weird draw that hit, and only occasionally a bluff, not enough to call IMHO and show a profit. In this case I'd check the river as well - he won't often check behind the turn with a calling hand because he'd want to bet and take the free showdown... sometimes you'll miss a bet from A-hi but more often you'll pick off a bluff from a terrible hand that would never have considered calling.
Surf
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#17
09-28-2005, 12:52 AM
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Re: How often does this line mean a strong hand?
If I bet the turn I'll usually fold to a raise, unless experince has shown that villain's turn raises mean little. The get-to-showdown line is the one you took, checking the turn expecting many worse hands to bet at it when you appear to have given up.
Surf
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#18
09-28-2005, 01:41 AM
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Re: How often does this line mean a strong hand?
i think the answer to the question is "a large majority of the time." i've donated many a BB along the way finding this answer.
when i stab at a flop and get called i nearly always fire again on the turn, so i bet the turn here almost always. whether to call down if raised all depends.
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#19
09-28-2005, 01:45 AM
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Re: How often does this line mean a strong hand?
Here's my line in this situation. I ask myself, "Is villain either (A) an idiot, (B) on monkey tilt, or (C) neither?"
If the answer is A or B, I call. As for C...well, if I'm not tilting myself, I fold.
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#20
09-28-2005, 01:56 AM
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Re: How often does this line mean a strong hand?
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Do any of you guys bet the turn and fold to a raise or are you committed to show this down when you bet the turn? [/ QUOTE ] I almost always bet the turn. Call the raise if I think I have outs/odds, but usually fold. Calling turn raises at 5/10 and below makes it difficult to not call that last river bet, partly because it induces a bluff on the river, and partly because I want to know what kind of hands he raises the turn with... So you are going to pay 2 more bets to showdown a hand you are not all that thrilled about, or fold the river feeling like you just got a prostate exam... So, I embrace my weak/tight side and fold to a turn raise, then go read some of Tommy A's posts in mid-high to make myself feel better. Besides I ALWAYS get shown a better hand calling down the average LPP types in these spots...
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