The government versus freedom problem

[Bjorn]

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The founders were quick to notice though -- that if I don't want to give up my rights, that third party will have to take it up with my Creator. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

The arrangement had nothing to do with a Creator -- it had everything to do with ensuring that no man or govenment was the source of rights. You don't have the power to not give what you don't have the power to give.

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Well I think you have it backwards. If someone TAKES away a right given to you by a third party (such as your creator) and assuming you yourself are unwilling or incabable to stop me yourself it is then up to that third party to stop me. (Or perhaps retake those rights.)

Put in another way, while you might not have the power to not give what you don't have the power to give, you might very well have the power to take it.

/Bjorn