$22 SnG - short stacked w/ pocket 4s???

The once and future king · #1 12-30-2005, 03:18 PM

BB = 150
Stack = 705
= PUSH.

Not enough better opportunity waiting time left to fold.

curtains · #2 12-30-2005, 03:23 PM

You guys are killin me here. How can you sit around and wait for some great oppurtunity with just over 4x the BB left. Yes it isnt a dream scenario, but you aren't likely to have one at this point. Anything but moving allin is simply terrible IMO. If the blinds are 50-100 then feel free to fold all you want.

45suited · #3 12-30-2005, 03:25 PM

Dammit, my first instinct was to push but then I retracted my post. Partial credit? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

The once and future king · #4 12-30-2005, 03:27 PM

I clearly state push in my post and then perhaps not so clearly say that there isnt enough time left to wait for a better opportunity.

So there.

curtains · #5 12-30-2005, 03:28 PM

I wasnt referring to you! Just responded to the last post.

The once and future king · #6 12-30-2005, 04:42 PM

Ok.

I actualy find it quite encouraging that so many say fold even though fold = quite horrid.

I think maybe some have missed that the BB is 150.

Bill Poker · #7 12-30-2005, 05:14 PM

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You guys are killin me here. How can you sit around and wait for some great oppurtunity with just over 4x the BB left. Yes it isnt a dream scenario, but you aren't likely to have one at this point. Anything but moving allin is simply terrible IMO. If the blinds are 50-100 then feel free to fold all you want.

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I think HERO had very little FE here, at least at 20+2. Even we only have 4.8BB, do you think it is a good idea to willingly take at best a coin flip here? especially HERO is button, and can wait for a few more hands, either for a better hand or open push opportunity. I do realize that sometimes I wait for too long. its my leak.

curtains · #8 12-30-2005, 05:16 PM

If we knew for sure that it was a coinflip with the UTG player, this is a very good situation for us. Very good....passing it up would be suicidal.

Bill Poker · #9 12-30-2005, 05:22 PM

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If we knew for sure that it was a coinflip with the UTG player, this is a very good situation for us. Very good....passing it up would be suicidal.

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are you saying that even if you know that UTG has AK, you still push? thats kind beyond my level of play......

curtains · #10 12-30-2005, 05:25 PM

definitely! First off there is dead money in the blinds (225 chips!!), second of all you will win the hadn almost 55% of the time. You arent going to see a better oppurtunity than this with only 4.7x the BB. Coinflips are usually bad when you have a comfortable chip stack, when you are desperate and its not the bubble they are usually pretty good, as its unlikely you will have a better oppurtunity. Its especially good to be on the "right" side of the coinflip.