AKo hand

#1 12-21-2005, 02:33 PM

Not really new to limit but I've always grasped NL better, so help all streets would be nice. Anyways, I thought it might be a good idea to bet the obvious inside straight on the turn given the pot size. I know this particular example doesn't say whats the right play (MP2's ridiculous A2) but is this a reasonable move without any real reads?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, SB calls.

River: (10 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, SB folds, SB checks, MP3 folds, SB checks, SB folds.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Hero has Ks Ad (high card, ace).
MP2 has 2s Ac (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins 12 BB.

TheHip41 · #2 12-21-2005, 02:45 PM

Just check fold the turn. This is a really horrible turn/river combo. If you didn't post what MP had, everyone would agree.

#3 12-21-2005, 03:21 PM

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Just check fold the turn. This is a really horrible turn/river combo. If you didn't post what MP had, everyone would agree.

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yep someone layed down the best hand. You just gteed your self alot of call downs in the future. Hope you hit some cards and were able to take advantage of it.

squeek12 · #4 12-21-2005, 03:36 PM

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Just check fold the turn. This is a really horrible turn/river combo. If you didn't post what MP had, everyone would agree.

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I always bet the flop here...is that bad?

#5 12-21-2005, 04:19 PM

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Just check fold the turn. This is a really horrible turn/river combo. If you didn't post what MP had, everyone would agree.

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I always bet the flop here...is that bad?

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Some cases there is nothing wrong with just checking the flop after a pre-flop raise. Depends on the number and type of players at the table, the pot size, and your outs.

silkyslim · #6 12-21-2005, 04:19 PM

this is not a reasonable move. there are a million people dying to call your bet and dont care what the board is. id maybe bet the flop but definately not the turn or river

MicK412 · #7 12-21-2005, 04:45 PM

I don't like your turn/river play at all. In almost every case in this party game, someones going to call you down with a pair type hand with the pot getting pretty big.

#8 12-21-2005, 05:00 PM

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River: (10 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, SB folds, SB checks, MP3 folds, SB checks, SB folds.

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#9 12-21-2005, 05:29 PM

I figured it wasnt a good play but was quite happy to see the pot shift my way after the river was called down.

UVaHoo · #10 12-21-2005, 05:34 PM

Without some kind of read against a field this size, I will generally check the flop if checked to, or raise if one of the blinds bets to clear up a few outs in a large pot. If I don't improve on the turn, I treat it like drawing hand, evaluate my outs/odds, and play it from there.

With the turn in your case, I really don't want to get involved, as you could be drawing dead if someone hit their gutshot.