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Old 01-08-2005, 08:25 PM
illguitar illguitar is offline
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Default Backers? little content, but for me!

I am cross-posting this in Poker Theory, High Stakes Limit hold em, and in general Texas Hold em.

My name is David Shotwell, I am a college student, and I don't have much of a bankroll. I am in my last semester of college and have decided to become a professional poker player. I have been playing for only 6 months, yet I have won 2 MTT's (each $50 buy-ins), countless SnG's, and am a winning player in cash games. Unfortunately, I don't have the stats to back up my talk because I don't use Pokertracker. I own a Mac, but I play on my roommates PC usually. While I don't find Pokertracker necessarily unethical, between my mixed feelings about it and the fact that I own a Mac, it's just not for me.

That's the easy stuff, the hard part is telling you why I deserve a backer. I deserve to have a backer for the only reason someone should be backed, I'm a winning player. I simply have had to use almost all of my winnings to pay for rent, student loans, tuition, etc. Because of these high costs I have been unable to retain a high enough bankroll to play in large enough games. I have only a couple of hundred dollars to play poker with after spending money on Christmas, books, and tuition for the semester. So, I don't even know what kind of money I am asking for. I am not even asking you, the two plus two community. I was just wondering where I would go to find a backer. This site has helped me so much in my time as a poker player, I figure that it can probably help me now.

While I am very new to the poker world, I have some characteristics of a winning poker player. I have an IQ of just over 140, I am good with money, I don't gamble at any other casino games, I have always been good at reading people, and my memory has been tested as well above what is considered a perfect score, (whatever that means).

I have become proficient at 7 stud, Omaha, Hold em, and Hi/Lo split games. I have read Mike Caro's book on poker tells, HPFAP, Theory of Poker, Pot Limit and No Limit Poker, Tournament Poker for Advanced Players, Petriv's Hold em Odds book, Super System, Championship Practice hands, and others. Those are all the books I can think of off the top of my head, and I have read most of them 2 or 3 times. I've read HPFAP 5 times.

I usually play Hold em in the range of 2/4 - 5/10, Stud in 1/2 - 3/6, and Omaha 2/4 - 3/6. I have played Hold em, and won, as high as 30/60. I played it 3 times and won twice, the third time losing relatively a little. I like to play 10/20 games in B&M's the most, but my bankroll is too small to even successfully play in a .50/1 game. I would love some advice, or help on where to go to find backers. You can reply, PM me, or e-mail me. My e-mail should be posted in my bio. Thanks for the help, and I would be more than willing to meet with any of you, talk on the phone, or answer any questions that you may have.

I hope that this did not come across as too over the top or with too much ego stroking, among other things, but remember I am trying to sell myself without any stats, and I stand by everything I have said here. Thank you and God bless.

-Daver
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Old 01-08-2005, 09:02 PM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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Default Re: Backers? little content, but for me!

I was kinda negative the first three times I read your posts, but upon reading it for a fourth time it just kinda hit me how good you are. Please PM me details and count me in for $5,000.
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Old 01-08-2005, 09:08 PM
amulet amulet is offline
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Default Re: Backers? little content, but for me!

buy virtual pc, you can play at all sites on a mac. go to graduate school.
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Old 01-08-2005, 09:15 PM
The4Aces The4Aces is offline
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Default Re: Backers? little content, but for me!

Stop cross posting, its annoying and wont help your cause.
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Old 01-08-2005, 10:46 PM
gaming_mouse gaming_mouse is offline
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Default Re: Backers? little content, but for me!

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I was kinda negative the first three times I read your posts, but upon reading it for a fourth time it just kinda hit me how good you are. Please PM me details and count me in for $5,000.

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This is hilarious.
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Old 01-08-2005, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Backers? little content, but for me!

The best place to find a backer is right here. The qualifications include at least a year of high-quality poker theory posts and hand-history responses that are considered to be both accurate and insightful; and also the ability to show a sustained period of at least a year of winning play in whatever game you are planning on continuing to play.

The second best place to find a backer is at your local casino where there are regular players who have seen you make a reasonable (at least $25 per hour) living for at least the past 6 months, know you to be almost completely tilt-free and also drug and alcohol free, and know that you are an agreeable, friendly fellow who will make a fair deal with them regarding your play.

Unless you can provide evidence for either of these two choices, I would assume your desire to get bankrolled will not be realized. For the most part, a player such as yourself who is looking for a bankroll is not considered any of the following:

A good money manager
A serious player
A winning player
A good risk

My advice is to suck it up, play .50/$1 for a month to build $1000 and then move to $2/$4 where you can multi-table and make $25 an hour.

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Old 01-09-2005, 12:26 PM
Jack Fate Jack Fate is offline
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Default You can build up quickly

illguitar,

i was in almost the same situation as you not too long ago. i had been a winning player up to $5/10 and then had to spend my bankroll on personal expenses. i wanted to go pro so bad but had no money to start with.

i suggest you do the following:

Get a job. Any old stupid job that will pay your living expenses will do. Then once you save up $1,000 start playing part-time $2/4 multitable (2 or 3 tables) and hitting bonuses and getting rake rebates if possible. There are many bonuses out there. These are discussed in these forums and in the ads on this forums. With some bonuses you can be making $40 an hour multitabling $2/4 with the bonus. Now this is a good earn rate comparable to single tabling $10/20 or $15/30. Don't cash anything out. Use your money from job to pay bills. When you hit $2,000, keep doing same thing at $3/6. When you hit $3,000 go to $5/10. Then when you get to $6,000, move to $10/20. I think you can get to this point in 6 months or less. Next I would keep playing $10/20 until you reach $12,000. At this point you can quit your job if you want. I would still just play $10/20 though even though you have double the amount that you need to survive. The reason is living expenses. This way if you have a bad month you can still dip into the extra bankroll and pay your bills without having to move down. By this time you'll be well on your way to building up to play the limit you want.
Also, if you're able to save money from the job, you can choose to add that to your bankroll as well.

Also, doing it this way you will become a better player and be better prepared for higher limits when you get there. I also suggest you read GTOT and get StatKing to help you with bankroll management decisions.

I hope this helps. Be patient, you can get there this way. I did.
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Old 01-09-2005, 03:29 PM
ggbman ggbman is offline
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Default Re: You can build up quickly

If you are multitabling you need more then 300BB for whatever limit you are playing, $6000 isnt enough to multitable 10-20.
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Old 01-09-2005, 03:52 PM
scotty34 scotty34 is offline
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Default Re: You can build up quickly

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If you are multitabling you need more then 300BB for whatever limit you are playing, $6000 isnt enough to multitable 10-20.

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I don't see how the fact that you are multi-tabling changes anything. The 300BB rule is to account for the swings due to variance at a particular limit if you are a winning player. The fact that you are multi-tabling should not affect this. The effect multi-tabling has is that you play more hands in a given period of time, but the swings should be essentially the same. Right?
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: You can build up quickly

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Right?

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Right.
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