Theoretical All-In Call

[Kripke]

I think the problem with your question is that you (maybe purposely) leave out important information. Consider the equity you are giving up if villian is able to do this 1 out of 100 times, maybe 1 out of 25 times or even 1 out of 10 times without the nuts. In that case the situation is entirely different and you are possibly making a horrible horrible fold. Since most people assume that this is a standard game (by the lack of informatio) it would be absurd not to factor in the possibility of a semi-bluff or a worse hand making this move (as crazy as it might seem).

Had you constructed the example so that we knew that villian had e.g. AdKd then the question could be settled by way of simple arithmetic, but it would also be entirely uninteresting.

The question is stupid, because without any information about the particular game or the particular villian, I think most people would consider the possibility of actually having the best hand here (even if it is a very small percentage of the time). And if that is the case, at least as far as I am concerned, I would have to be absurdly deep stacked before considering folding this hand. In other words, I can't really imagine this scenario ever happening and I have no intuitions as regards exactly how deep I would have to be. If people really come up with particular numbers of $ as an answer to your question this will likely reflect how much they could afford (or are willing) to lose in regards to their current BR rather than afford us some real insight into when this is a correct fold.

And btw, your "real life" example is very different from your original example.

[amoeba]

some of you guys should stay away from omaha.

[riverboatking]

seriously wtf is the point of this thread?
this situation will never come up, because if you flop the nuts there is no way you can actually know the other person is freerolling on you, and if you ever were deep enough to start worrying about it there is very little chance that it would all be in on the flop.

i thought the point of this fourm was to discuss strategy that was applicable to reality, not to argue over fantasy ideas that will have no applicability in the real world.

jesus.
take this crap to the probabiltiy fourm.

[gp?]

Seat 1: strassa2 ($3679 in chips)
Seat 7: xxTHEJOKERxx ($6043 in chips)
Seat 9: Nazgul18 ($1924 in chips)
xxTHEJOKERxx: posts small blind $10
Nazgul18: posts big blind $20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
strassa2: raises $60 to $80
xxTHEJOKERxx: calls $70
Nazgul18: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kd Ac Qd]
xxTHEJOKERxx: checks
strassa2: bets $120
xxTHEJOKERxx: calls $120
*** TURN *** [Kd Ac Qd] [Jc]
xxTHEJOKERxx: bets $5843 and is all-in
strassa2 said, "hmmm"
strassa2 said, "u got like a ten redraw or something?"
strassa2 said, "sick"
strassa2 said, "i guess i fold a ten"
strassa2: folds
xxTHEJOKERxx collected $419 from pot
xxTHEJOKERxx: shows [6d Td] (a straight, Ten to Ace)

[Kripke]

As already pointed out. This is an entirely different situation not immediately comparable to OP's scenario.

That being said, I agree with RBK.

- Kripke

[Yeti]

Easy fold here. Woulda been amusing if strassa had TcXc, though.

[Alexthegreat]

The OP has the nuts.

[yoadrians]

[ QUOTE ]
Blinds 5/10

All folds to MP who raises to 40
You call on the button with AhKh, two to the flop

Flop: QdJdTc

MP open pushes for X (you cover him). How big does X have to be for you to fold here?

[/ QUOTE ]

A bajillion+1. Never fold the nuts.

[Dominic]

[ QUOTE ]
$782,453

[/ QUOTE ]

damn, I had $782,455

let me go check my math....

dang! didn't carry the 2.