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Old 09-13-2005, 08:55 AM
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Default Tough turn decision (?) 6-handed 10-20 LB

Some background history: Villain had been playing crazy on a 6-handed 5-10 table with me and lost like 1500 to me in 30 hands. Then he went up to 10-20 6-handed and I followed. When this hand came up I had played 50-60 hands with him (total) and I didn't know if he was: tilting, drunk or just very laggish. He seemed to be playing better at this level and winning more pots but still overbetting and bluffing.
Well here's the hand:

- Villain sitting in seat 1 with $3354.70 [Dealer]
- Seat 2 $400.00 [Sitting out]
- SB 3 $1081.36
- BB 4 $1351.00
- Hero sitting in seat 5 with $4606.15
- Seat 6 with $3307.56
posted the small blind - $10.00
posted the big blind - $20.00

** Dealing card to Hero: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero raised - $60.00
Seat 6 folded
Villain called - $60.00
SB folded
BB folded

Dealing the flop (150): A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bet - $150.00
Villain called - $150.00

Dealing the turn (450): Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bet - $450.00
Villain raised - $1350.00

Hero?

All help and comments is greatly appreciated. As you all can see there is only J-10 that beats Hero.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:06 AM
Kripke Kripke is offline
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Default Re: Tough turn decision (?) 6-handed 10-20 LB

Push?

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Old 09-13-2005, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Tough turn decision (?) 6-handed 10-20 LB

Kick yourself for not betting more on the flop, then push. If hit his gutshot not a big deal but betting more on this flop is an excellent idea. There two flush draws on the board so I wouldn't be suprised to see villain with one of them probably with a pair.
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Old 09-13-2005, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Tough turn decision (?) 6-handed 10-20 LB

Hero potted the flop and turn. Played pefectly. Get it all in right here.
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:45 AM
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Well thats what I did and river came a queen giving me full house beating his straight.
It's just that I felt like a real donkey afterwards.
Is it possible to get away on turn?
What about calling with the idea of getting a showdown if [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] falls and pushing river if board pairs? Villain has 1700 behind on turn.
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:53 AM
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Feel like a donkey for going all in with top set? The only hand that could beat you on the turn was a Gut Shot straight JT?
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Tough turn decision (?) 6-handed 10-20 LB

[ QUOTE ]
Well thats what I did and river came a queen giving me full house beating his straight.
It's just that I felt like a real donkey afterwards.
Is it possible to get away on turn?
What about calling with the idea of getting a showdown if [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] falls and pushing river if board pairs? Villain has 1700 behind on turn.

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He's pushing river no matter what hits (assuming he's somewhat competent) except MAYBE the ace, but even then he might. So if the last diamond or club hits he certainly isn't checking. He'd already have invested too much to give you a free showdown or check/fold.
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:19 PM
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Well it cost me 2800 more to go all-in in a pot I've invested 650.
The only other hand I can imagine him calling flop and raising turn is 5-5.
I think K-K is very unlikely since he would most certainly reraise preflop.
I raised from first position and I bet pott on flopp and turn so on the turn he has to give me credit for at least two pair on that board, right?
I think my handrange is narrow when I've bet pott on turn.
AA, KK, AK, or AQ looks very likely to villain.

I had that ugly feeling that you get when you are behind and thought; I have top set, I could be behind but I'm not folding this one because I can river him. And then when I rivered him I thought it was stupid thinking.
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