Turn cap with top set on straightboard.

Kharnage · #1 12-18-2005, 09:54 PM

No good read on the villain, but he seems pretty standard with 25/16/0.7 over 40 hands, not very aggressive and havent seen him out of line postflop.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO folds, SB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps
How easy do you see this cap against a pretty passive postflop villain? And would you ever just call his 3-bet to raise the river?

Lmn55d · #2 12-18-2005, 10:13 PM

very easy. I would also raise the river and call a 3bet. Calling the turn 3bet to raise the river is pointless.

Spicymoose · #3 12-18-2005, 10:16 PM

Any merits in raising preflop?

wackjob · #4 12-18-2005, 11:35 PM

I would raise PF and raise/call the river.

Kharnage · #5 12-18-2005, 11:35 PM

I seldom raise 66 here, I might if I feel CO and SB are bad players. I always raise 88. Should I extend that range in this spot?

dave44 · #6 12-19-2005, 12:11 AM

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very easy. I would also raise the river and call a 3bet. Calling the turn 3bet to raise the river is pointless.

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I think raising the river after capping the turn would be pretty bad. What are you putting this guy on?

StellarWind · #7 12-19-2005, 01:59 AM

Both players seem to be reasonable people who probably recognize that their opponent is also a reasonable person.

I don't see Villain 3-betting the turn with less than two pair and quite possibly that isn't enough. Also I know I usually like to bet the flop with hands like 54 and J6. Is there something about Cutoff that would inspire a flop checkraise?

Flopped straights outnumber all two-pair and set hands put together. You can sift through all the hands and ask questions like "is J5 a possible hand", "is 73 a preflop complete", and "would he try to isolate preflop with 55/44".

But in the end you have to think you aren't the favorite anymore. I'd call the turn 3-bet expecting that there is no EV to be gained by capping. On the other hand there is a nice EV gain in raising the river after the board pairs. He won't like the board pairing against his straight, but you won't have shown enough strength to excuse a river checkcall instead of betting out.

Also a turn cap can lose a bet on the river if his two-pair get counterfeited. If you only call the 3-bet he's apt to make a crying checkcall but hearing you cap the turn easily justifies a river checkfold.

Lmn55d · #8 12-19-2005, 02:03 AM

after counting some combinations I rescind my response. I would call the river.

ArturiusX · #9 12-19-2005, 02:04 AM

The villian isn't c/r the flop with many hands that beats the hero for mine.

I cap and see how he reacts on the river.

#10 12-19-2005, 04:12 AM

Against an opponent like this I'd just call and raise the river if the board pairs.