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Old 12-30-2005, 12:01 PM
Harv72b Harv72b is offline
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Default Re: Punishing Autopilot TAGs

Take it a step further:

Hero opens from MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. An uncreative, ABC-type TAG multitabler (800 hand sample) 3-bets from the CO. Folded around to Hero who calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

There are 7.33 SBs in the pot. What's our course of action?
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:09 PM
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Take it a step further:

Hero opens from MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. An uncreative, ABC-type TAG multitabler (800 hand sample) 3-bets from the CO. Folded around to Hero who calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

There are 7.33 SBs in the pot. What's our course of action?

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I'm an uncreative, ABC-type TAG multitabler.

My lines against a seemingly well playing TAG:
Hands I'll bet/call: AK-AQ/AA (27 combos)
Hands I'll bet/fold: JJ-99 (12 combos)
Hands I'll check (planning to go to a sd no matter what): KK-QQ (12 combos)

It doesn't take a rocketscientist to figure out you'll make an immediate profit by check/raising me everytime by just looking at these combos. I guess I'm counting on TAGs not beeing tricky enough to check/raise me often with air. But don't try this against me Harv, I know your nick [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Punishing Autopilot TAGs

this is exactly the type of thread lurkers lurk for - multitabling TAGs telling everyone how to exploit multitabling TAGs.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:14 PM
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this is exactly the type of thread lurkers lurk for - multitabling TAGs telling everyone how to exploit multitabling TAGs.

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Oh, this thread should be deleted!
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:03 PM
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this is exactly the type of thread lurkers lurk for - multitabling TAGs telling everyone how to exploit multitabling TAGs.

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That's why I love this forum and all you guys! In fact, you are taking all my money, but you give me good advice to make me at least dream of winnning it back sometimes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-30-2005, 09:27 PM
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this is exactly the type of thread LAGs lurk for - multitabling TAGs telling everyone how to exploit multitabling TAGs.

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FYP, and I continue to thank all who post in Micro/Small!

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Old 12-30-2005, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Punishing Autopilot TAGs

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Take it a step further:

Hero opens from MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. An uncreative, ABC-type TAG multitabler (800 hand sample) 3-bets from the CO. Folded around to Hero who calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

There are 7.33 SBs in the pot. What's our course of action?

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I'm an uncreative, ABC-type TAG multitabler.

My lines against a seemingly well playing TAG:
Hands I'll bet/call: AK-AQ/AA (27 combos)
Hands I'll bet/fold: JJ-99 (12 combos)
Hands I'll check (planning to go to a sd no matter what): KK-QQ (12 combos)

It doesn't take a rocketscientist to figure out you'll make an immediate profit by check/raising me everytime by just looking at these combos. I guess I'm counting on TAGs not beeing tricky enough to check/raise me often with air. But don't try this against me Harv, I know your nick [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Would ABC TAGs be going to showdown with KK-QQ with an overcard Ace on the board? I think you might be underestimating the times they'd fold the underpair to the overcard Ace.
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:31 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Would ABC TAGs be going to showdown with KK-QQ with an overcard Ace on the board? I think you might be underestimating the times they'd fold the underpair to the overcard Ace.

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I was just saying that I am a pretty ABC playing TAG when multitabling and that those are my lines...
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: Punishing Autopilot TAGs

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It doesn't take a rocketscientist to figure out you'll make an immediate profit by check/raising me everytime by just looking at these combos. I guess I'm counting on TAGs not beeing tricky enough to check/raise me often with air. But don't try this against me Harv, I know your nick [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I'll check/raise you with the ace, too. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Point being, it's all about knowing your opponent. You'll build up a big sample vs. the multi-tabling TAGs pretty quickly, since they're in so many games, and once you do you can start trying creative moves like this. Of course, eventually you'll end up in the kind of situations where everything that happens on the flop is pure posturing, and the moves get moved to the expensive streets, and...that's why I love this game. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: Punishing Autopilot TAGs

If i have KK on an A high flop and you check raise me, expect a raise on the turn.
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