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Old 11-10-2005, 03:09 AM
ajm36 ajm36 is offline
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Default Re: Three to a flush on the flop..now what?

I wasn't planning on folding the turn--just wasn't sure about betting out. I know I shouldn't give a free card to the draws, but I could already be beat.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: Three to a flush on the flop..now what?

what i meant was, they have the equity to call any raises as long as there is one caller, since they will put in 33% but have their draw come in 35% of the time.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: Three to a flush on the flop..now what?

What if I'm already beat? And what do I do against a raise here--re-raise or call.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: Three to a flush on the flop..now what?

*grunch*

You have a nice set there. Although you are up against 5 opponents, there is a good chance that you are actually ahead now. If you are behind you have still 7 Outs to improve on the Turn and 10 outs to improve an the River.
The pot is fairly big with six players in it, so you definitly do not want to play it passively and risk giving a lone [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] a free or cheap card to draw out. So betting the flop was correct and BB helped you to protect your hand. Nevertheless, you have 2 cold callers.
BB could have checked into the hand with anything, so he might be raising a draw or trying to protect a pair or a 2 pair. You haven't provided reads for the guy, so it's hard to tell if he would play a draw aggressivly against a large field or even try bluffing people out with overcards.
Without reads it is difficult to narrow down UTG and BU in this unraised pot. When they are overplayers or happy chasers, they are likely to be on a draw.
Betting out the Turn when a blank comes is all-right then. You won't fold anybody, but you won't get a say T high flush to raise, either. So I think they could be still drawing, making your bet a value-bet.
Therefore I would bet the river and fold if it's a raise in front of me (especially if you were an overcaller). Against 3 opponents on the river with any 6 beating you, the three-flush and the cold-callers still in I wouldn't think it's a value-bet unless you know if your opponents play very poorly. Many poor players would stay in the pot with one flush-card (or even one pair), figuring another bet wouldn't count much. So against unknowns I would fold to a raise on the river. I would hate to miss bets by busted one-card-draws but wouldn't want to invest more than one BB on this board.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:51 AM
LoaferGee12 LoaferGee12 is offline
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Default Re: Three to a flush on the flop..now what?

Standard. If raised on the turn, then you can go to call-down.
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