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Old 11-07-2005, 01:02 PM
dcarlc dcarlc is offline
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Default AA, What do you think about this

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Fulltilt 3/6 7 handed

I have know reads on opponents and they have none on me as this is the first time I have played in this game, other than the game has been pretty tight after about 3 orbits.

I'm on the button with 2 red aces.

2 folds, MP raises, fold, cutoff 3 bets, I call 3 cold, SB folds, BB folds, MP calls.

FLOP: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],

check, bet, call, call

Turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

check, bet, raises, call, reraise, reraise, call, call

River: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img](ouch)

bet, fold, I cry and call

I'm really interested in the preflop and flop
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:20 PM
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Cap every street you can.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: AA, What do you think about this

I think u'll see a flush AND A5 here a total of about 70% of the time.

The other 30% of the time you'll see 2 pair or trips.

Fold the turn, they're all telling you you're beat.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:30 PM
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I think u'll see a flush AND A5 here a total of about 70% of the time.

The other 30% of the time you'll see 2 pair or trips.

Fold the turn, they're all telling you you're beat.

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Given the preflop action I think you are looking at A5 like 0% of the time.

I think you really really need to cap preflop.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: AA, What do you think about this

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Fold the turn, they're all telling you you're beat.

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Who's "they're all"? Only one villain is betting and raising.

What do you put the betting/raising villian on? What hands do you think he 3-bet PF that hit this board?

To the OP, raise/cap this flop. Hopefully you're against KK or QQ and the third player will end up putting in a lot of chips chasing his draw.
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Old 11-07-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: AA, What do you think about this

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Fold the turn, they're all telling you you're beat.

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Who's "they're all"? Only one villain is betting and raising.

What do you put the betting/raising villian on? What hands do you think he 3-bet PF that hit this board?

To the OP, raise/cap this flop. Hopefully you're against KK or QQ and the third player will end up putting in a lot of chips chasing his draw.

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I also thought that was 3 bets back to you on the turn, hard to tell who is reraising.
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Old 11-07-2005, 02:08 PM
matt hooley matt hooley is offline
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Default Re: AA, What do you think about this

preflop-what?
flop-what?

cap preflop and raise the flop if bet into.
playing this passively makes it so much harder and is much less correct imo
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:14 PM
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To the OP, raise/cap this flop. Hopefully you're against KK or QQ and the third player will end up putting in a lot of chips chasing his draw.

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These are exactly the hands that I had hoped they would be on and were on(at least the one said he had kings). If I raise preflop and raise on the flop they are still both in and the pot is smaller. What is wrong with waiting till the turn? This pot was 20BB's, the other way it gets to maybe 14 or 16. I want to punish the person with and king's and the person on the draw. I am going to take 1st or 2nd in this pot(unless the river is the king of hearts then I can take 3rd but no matter). I am going to win it more than I loose it. Why is my concern not winning the biggest pot I can when I do win?
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:16 PM
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I call 3 cold

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I stopped reading at this point.
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Old 11-07-2005, 03:23 PM
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To the OP, raise/cap this flop. Hopefully you're against KK or QQ and the third player will end up putting in a lot of chips chasing his draw.

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These are exactly the hands that I had hoped they would be on and were on(at least the one said he had kings). If I raise preflop and raise on the flop they are still both in and the pot is smaller. What is wrong with waiting till the turn? This pot was 20BB's, the other way it gets to maybe 14 or 16. I want to punish the person with and king's and the person on the draw. I am going to take 1st or 2nd in this pot(unless the river is the king of hearts then I can take 3rd but no matter). I am going to win it more than I loose it. Why is my concern not winning the biggest pot I can when I do win?

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I think you're being a little results oriented. Most of the time your opponent is not putting in 4 bets on the turn with a hand that you beat. So this time you got a few more bets from disguising your hand, but in the long haul I think there is lot more value in putting in the bets preflop and on the flop when you know your hand is a big favorite.
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