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#12
08-08-2005, 10:46 AM
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Re: 88 - set on the flop - play for the whole stack
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If you raised more on the flop and/or pushed the turn you would have priced him out of those calls. Or he would have made calls that were -EV. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think he made -EV calls as it was played? By the way, if I were BB I would have pushed the river. I don't like his check much at all, what do you guys say? 
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#13
08-08-2005, 10:51 AM
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Re: 88 - set on the flop - play for the whole stack
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[ QUOTE ] If you raised more on the flop and/or pushed the turn you would have priced him out of those calls. Or he would have made calls that were -EV. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think he made -EV calls as it was played? By the way, if I were BB I would have pushed the river. I don't like his check much at all, what do you guys say? [/ QUOTE ] The rest of his play was pretty sucky too, so why just focus on his river suckiness ?
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#15
08-08-2005, 01:26 PM
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Re: 88 - set on the flop - play for the whole stack
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you raised more on the flop and/or pushed the turn you would have priced him out of those calls. Or he would have made calls that were -EV. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think he made -EV calls as it was played? By the way, if I were BB I would have pushed the river. I don't like his check much at all, what do you guys say? [/ QUOTE ] The rest of his play was pretty sucky too, so why just focus on his river suckiness ? [/ QUOTE ] Do you think that the fish are thinking about +/- EV when calling large bets? How can you bet them out of a pot when they don't understand the math and are chasing cards that may or may not hit? (ignore me, i'm still angry about my weekend fish who call any bet with Any Ace or hit a flop of Q94 with Q9o after calling my large pre-flop bet with Kings.)
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#16
08-08-2005, 02:16 PM
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Re: 88 - set on the flop - play for the whole stack
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If you raised more on the flop and/or pushed the turn you would have priced him out of those calls. Or he would have made calls that were -EV. [/ QUOTE ] You don't think he made -EV calls as it was played? By the way, if I were BB I would have pushed the river. I don't like his check much at all, what do you guys say? [/ QUOTE ] The rest of his play was pretty sucky too, so why just focus on his river suckiness ? [/ QUOTE ] Do you think that the fish are thinking about +/- EV when calling large bets? How can you bet them out of a pot when they don't understand the math and are chasing cards that may or may not hit? (ignore me, i'm still angry about my weekend fish who call any bet with Any Ace or hit a flop of Q94 with Q9o after calling my large pre-flop bet with Kings.) [/ QUOTE ] No, they don't, therefore +EV for us. Brad
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#17
08-08-2005, 02:53 PM
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Re: 88 - set on the flop - play for the whole stack
Every one of the bb's calls were -ev.
Flop: Calling $7 with only a gutshot. Turn: Calling a potsized bet with 8 outs. The implied odds are not there given the stack sizes. I would lose my stack here with the set as well. If you go crazy pushing on the turn, you will lose value in the long run. Make a note and follow this person around. jb
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#18
08-08-2005, 03:39 PM
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Re: 88 - set on the flop - play for the whole stack
I would either raise more on the flop or just smooth call. Other than that, your play is fine, villain's turn call is definitely -EV (villain calls $20 on turn to win $40 in pot + possible additional $20 on river, 3:1 on money but he's a 4:1 dog).
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