How's your SSNL?: HR101 AKo

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I really dislike Hero not leading the turn. Lead for 2/3 of the pot and fold to a raise.

EDIT: Oh, and I put villain on QJ, maybe hearts maybe not.

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Agreed. By checking the turn, Hero relinquishes control of the hand for no particular reason.

I'll go w/ AT. It's strong enough to call one early raise pre-flop.

qj or at, set or K definitely bets the turn. If we assume villain is a decent 2+2er, i don't think we ever see busted hearts here. AK is easily in your hand range and I don't expect to ever blow off ssnl villains with a push.

[ajmargarine]

I better clarify things before I get in trouble. Villian in the hand, which is based on a hand I've played, is not specifically 42_it. I just put a name in there for fun. Assume villian is a decent 2+2'er.

I just can't see anything other than either the made straight or busted hearts. TT would have bet the turn, with those draws on the board, as would have KT (but I think KT would have been folded PF, especially with your image as a 2+2er). AT I don't see reraising that flop since AK is a prefectly reasonably hand for you to open with UTG.

As it stands, I would call 87s over QJ, suited or not. If the reads on both of you are correct, then he knows he is calling with a likely dominated hand and if you don't have a high PP, then you just clutter up his straight outs. The 87s is much more likely to have clean outs, both against overcards and overpairs.

[B1GF1SHY]

Looks like he wants a cheap draw with such a garbage flop raise, it's barely bigger than a min-raise. A set continues here 95% of the time after raising the flop as does any other reasonable hand. I think he has hearts or QJ.

Villain made his straight, or has a busted draw...its pretty impossible to tell which

I put villain solidly on 87h.
If the option had been QJh that'd be my choice - but QJo is a hand for suckers to call PF.

Hero made a poor play. He called the flop RR - good. The turn missed the possble flush draw - so Hero should bet again, like 50% of pot and consider folding to a big RR.

As played I do think the turn check + block bet will induce a bluff from a decent 2+2er, so Hero should call. (Must call if inducing a bluff).

/Zal

[tripp0807]

For those advocating a lead on the turn, I think this is a WA/WB situation...Cold call of raise, raise on flop...is this how people really want to play TPTK? If so, it's going to lead to a ton of small pot winnings that are either cancelled out or outdone by big pot losses. AK isn't a monster, even when it hits. The raise on the flop means one of two things -- 1) you're dominated and need to keep your losses to a minimum, or 2) you're ahead at this time, but there are a ton of dangerous cards, and you need to keep the pot small.

The check on the turn, while it turned out to be a bad play that could have resulted in a pot win, was good at the time.

I really struggle with villian raising $23 (20% of stack)on the flop, when 2/3 of the time he won't hit. I think you could have bought your free turn for $10 less. What gets villian the stack is hero making top two pair, not the overbet on the flop.

[swolfe]

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I really struggle with villian raising $23 (20% of stack)on the flop, when 2/3 of the time he won't hit. I think you could have bought your free turn for $10 less. What gets villian the stack is hero making top two pair, not the overbet on the flop.

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i'm not sure what you're talking about. $10 less isn't a legal raise and the raise to $23 certainly is not an overbet. after villain's call, the pot is $31...the raise of $14 more isn't even half pot.