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Old 12-24-2005, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: Turn Decision

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I 3-bet and fold to a cap.

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This is AWFUL!

We have 8 outs against two pair!!!!! Folding is totally out of the question on this turn.

That's why three-betting and folding to a cap is bad.

We could consider: three-betting, calling a cap, and folding the river unimproved, but we can get to showdown more efficiently by just calling the raise and calling the river.

For me this is a standard call-down. Folding is quite bad, because we have outs and often this will be a bluff or something like that. If checked to on the river I'm betting, and will consider folding to another check-raise unimproved.

I need a pretty strong read to either three-bet the turn for value or to fold on this turn (that would have to be VERY strong... like I KNEW my opponent had a set). Calling down is what I'll do in like 90% of situations.

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Hey Deranged,

I do agree that folding the turn to a c/r is not the best line most of the time with kings. This is because with hidden outs we have 8 clean outs to win.

But... Lets consider the situation here. You have a opener whos not a maniac or overly aggro. With a board of 4,10,2,6 with 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]s. What two pair could he be raising 10/6's or 4/6's thats seems unlikely. He could be raising on a flush draw, I wonder what his turn agg. stats are? I think 44/22/66 are the most likely candidates.

Like I said before Im probably not going to do this often but in this case I dont my line as awful. Plus the pot is still small so if we do happen to fold the best hand its not a catastrophe. I guess a case could be made for getting to sd cheaply by calling down if really need to see his trips on the end.
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