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Old 12-26-2005, 06:19 PM
lehighguy lehighguy is offline
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"I don't think so, honestly."

Your entitled to your opinion. Back when the Soviet Union was around the differences seemed quite small no? I think people inflate the differences because it helps them feel unique. At the end of the day, we aren't at eachothers throats and we would help eachother out in a time of need.

"It comes from a deep desire to create a better world and from a deep fear about the sentiments in the US."

I don't know what you think our sentiments are. Most of us are isolationists. No one wants to be in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those who support it do so reluctantely, because they feel fighting there prevents fighting here.

Contrast that to China and Taiwan. China wants to invade and subjagate the country for no reason other then nationalism, ego, and expansionism. If China succeeds it will never leave Tiawan. American's want to leave Iraq and Afghanistan the first chance they get.

If you think we are the evil empire, your watching too much Al Jeezera. We would rather be left alone.
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Old 12-26-2005, 06:51 PM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Contrast that to China and Taiwan. China wants to invade and subjagate the country for no reason other then nationalism, ego, and expansionism. If China succeeds it will never leave Tiawan. American's want to leave Iraq and Afghanistan the first chance they get.

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China (Russia as well) gets away with a lot of human rights abuses since the focus has been on the middle east and the US, I agree on that.

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If you think we are the evil empire, your watching too much Al Jeezera. We would rather be left alone.

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I have watched it for 2 minutes, and I did not understand a single word [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. I don't look upon it as an evil empire, because many of the actions conducted are not with evil intent.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:14 PM
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"China (Russia as well) gets away with a lot of human rights abuses since the focus has been on the middle east and the US, I agree on that."

I think the reason we get such a hard time is because people have a high opinion of us, whereas they have given up on the other two.

Alot of times too I feel people expect far too much out of us.

We aren't suppose to send troops all over the world, but we are suppose to provide all the manpower for peacekeeping and police Darfur.

We aren't suppose to use oil or be capitalists, but we are suppose to buy everyone elses goods so thier economies can grow.

We aren't suppose to impose our believes, but we are suppose to enforce human rights.

Mostly, you just get the impression that other countries talk about doing things while we are suppose to actually do it. People talk about Darfur, but the US is expected to actually do it. People talked about Kuwait, but the US did most of the heavy lifting. If Taiwan is invaded or Kim John goes crazy or something else happens everyone else will talk about what should be done while we are expected to actually do something. When you are constantly criticized no matter what course of action you take you just want to say [censored] it all.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:53 PM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Your points have some validity. Understand in this context that you are a superpower and you conduct actions that influence the lives of citizens of other countries to a higher degree than most countries.

P.S. There are other countries who are now willing to intervene in Darfur.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:24 AM
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P.S. There are other countries who are now willing to intervene in Darfur.

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Kinda late now, don't you think? Besides, what's stopping them?
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:51 AM
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P.S. There are other countries who are now willing to intervene in Darfur.

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Kinda late now, don't you think? Besides, what's stopping them?

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Very late, but it will happen now.
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Old 12-27-2005, 06:06 PM
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P.S. There are other countries who are now willing to intervene in Darfur.

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Kinda late now, don't you think? Besides, what's stopping them?

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Very late, but it will happen now.

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A successful EU intervention in Darfur would vastly raise my opinion of Europeans. Just in case you needed any more incentive. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:04 AM
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I think the reason we get such a hard time is because people have a high opinion of us, whereas they have given up on the other two.


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Perhaps. But to offer a strawman:

Perhaps it is because we project a very high opinion of ourselves in words but dont always follow up in actions. This is specially true these days IMO.
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