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Old 12-15-2005, 12:29 PM
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Once again, its been proven that the "Culture of Life" begins at conception and ends at birth. STORY Earlier this week, a woman in the Baylor Regional Medical Center, a legal African immigrant was killed by her doctors when they unplugged her respirator and allowed her to die.

Tirhas Habtegiris was a terminal cancer patient at the hospital. On December 1st, the doctors and staff at informed her family that she would be removed the respirator that was keeping her alive in 10 days. Ms. Habtegris had no insurance, and could not pay for her medical treatment, so, under a Texas law, signed by then Governor Bush, the Medical Center had the right to refuse to further treat the woman.

Ms. Habtegiris was conscious and alert at the time. It took more than 15 minutes for her to die, once the respirator was turned off. Her dying wish was to live long enough for her mother to be brought to the US so she could die in her arms. Her mother could not be located and brought to the US in the 10 days allowed.

She wasn't white. Politicians did not diagnose her via videotape. There were no protestors outside the hospital where she died. The President did not rush back from vacation to sign a law to protect her life. She died without seeing her mother one last time.

There wasn't a single person, other than her family, that fought for HER right to live.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:31 PM
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Did the family offer to take her into their custody and pay for her care from there on out such as the Schiavos did?
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:42 PM
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Hippocratic/Hypocritic Oath: Do no harm, so long as they can pay.
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:43 PM
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If you really wanted a culture where life is valued above all else, would your first question be about paying hospital bills?
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Old 12-15-2005, 12:48 PM
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If you really wanted a culture where life is valued above all else, would your first question be about paying hospital bills?

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If you want to pay for her to stay alive, then go ahead and start a organization that is going to do this. Not to seem callous, but why do people who don't know her be forced to keep her alive.

News flash! People die from illnesses and accidents or just plain die. We all have to go at some point.

I feel bad that she didn't get to see her mother, but that is one of those unfortunate things.

I don't see how this has anything to do with a "culture of life".

-Gryph
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:23 PM
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Wouldn't you agree it's a rather shallow "culture of life" which decides how long people are able to live based on their ability to pay for treatment?

If the people who protested outside Terri Schiavo's hospital really believed that all life is sacred, shouldn't they have pooled some funds to keep Tirhas Habtegiris alive as long as possible? Shouldn't they be protesting and screaming at their legislators to change this law?
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:37 PM
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avivasimplex,

It is less about them not caring than it is them not knowing about it. I think the most provocative point of the OPs post was that this recieved no attention because it did not have as much "drama". If the people who were outside Schiavo's building had known about it, I'm sure they woulda gone just as nutso.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:49 PM
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We can't afford to keep everyone alive. There aren't many reasons why people have to die before thier 80. If you are willing to spend millions of dollars on medical treatment you can even beat AIDS.

But we don't have enough money to spend millions of dollars on everyone. And the issue will only get bigger as medical technology advances, can treat more illnesses, and becomes more expensive. Even countries with universal healthcare have acknowledged this.
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Old 12-15-2005, 01:53 PM
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Great thread from a great republican.

There certainly is a culture of 'you must have the baby you can't afford, but don't expect us to help you raise it'.
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Old 12-15-2005, 02:00 PM
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Rich, white, brain dead woman in Florida = Congressional intervention, and religious fundamentalists so concerned about her right to live that it makes the news every night for three weeks.

Poor, black African Immigrant in Texas, who is lucid and conscious, who knows the end has come, but wants to live until she can see her Mother one more time (6 weeks? 10 weeks?) gets the plug pulled against her wishes and the wishes of her family. Why? Cause no one can pay.

WHERE WAS THE "CULTURE OF LIFE CROWD"???

Point 2: Why was this bill ever signed in TX, by Gov Bush, if he is part of the "Culture of Life", every life is sacred sect??
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