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Old 12-10-2005, 04:54 PM
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Yeah, let's look at things from the criminal's perspective. He fears the good guys who might try to punish him for the future criminal actions he wishes to commit. So naturally he wishes to arm himself with the best weapons so that he might perpetrate those criminal actions with impunity. Makes sense.

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I am almost sure that you are serious in your response, in which case I wonder if you are aware that someone making fun of your position would make EXACTLY the same post sarcastically to illustrate the sheer ignorance of your position.
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Old 12-10-2005, 05:21 PM
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What part of my previous post don't you get that Iran has no legitimate reason to fear Israel, being as far removed geographically as it is, unless Iran intends to go on supporting terrorists who attack Israel or to attack Israel themselves?
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:18 PM
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Your analogies are crap. And your arguments are retarded. That's the best you can do 'the good 'ol US of A will decide what's best'?
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Old 12-10-2005, 06:25 PM
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Your arguments are all about what is best for the USA and has nothing to do with Iran rights to develop technolgy it has the knowledge and ability to develop. Argue that it is disadvantagious to the US to have certain nations with the ability to have and launch WMD but it's insulting to suggest that there is some natural law that forbids Iran to apply knowledge they have.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:03 PM
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Why don't you get the ball rolling...what do you think the US should do to Iran?

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Support a coup by pro western elements within Iran's military.

Stu

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yeah because that worked out so well the last time we did it.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:10 PM
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Yeah, let's look at things from the criminal's perspective. He fears the good guys who might try to punish him for the future criminal actions he wishes to commit. So naturally he wishes to arm himself with the best weapons so that he might perpetrate those criminal actions with impunity. Makes sense.

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Can you please describe any blanant acts of crime Iran has commitedin the past 25 years? I can't, of course this holds true for Iraq but hey, once a douche always a douche right?
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:14 PM
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I think it is your arguments that are very lacking in intelligence. It is clear that you are intentionally missing the point MMMMMM and myself have made here repeatedly. Namely that it is Iran's past actions, statements and future intentions, and lack of any true fear of an unprovoked Israeli attack that is the key factor here. Without such intentions as supporting terrorism against Israel or the US, they would have no need for nuclear weapons.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:14 PM
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What part of my previous post don't you get that Iran has no legitimate reason to fear Israel, being as far removed geographically as it is, unless Iran intends to go on supporting terrorists who attack Israel or to attack Israel themselves?

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Why do you getto decide what Iranian fears arelegitimate and what are not. They cannot repel any sort of military attack from the US or Israel without nuclear weapons. Maybe Iran is tired of being in a position where they can be [censored] with and are willing to dosomething about it. The US has no right to keep dozens of nations in fear of an invasion and Iran has every rightto have whatever technology they can develop to defend themselves
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:32 PM
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Iran has every rightto have whatever technology they can develop to defend themselves

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And if their reason for developing nukes is not defensive?
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:41 PM
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Iran has every rightto have whatever technology they can develop to defend themselves

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And if their reason for developing nukes is not defensive?

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Nuclear weapons are obviously a terrible weapon which the world wouldprobably be betteroff without. HOwever from a Game theory pov if one has them then everyone shoul d have tehm. The situation is far more dangerous when one power can nuke anotherwith no fear of represuccions.

Thebest idea is to create a senario where offensive nukes are a losing proposition.
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