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Old 12-30-2005, 04:40 PM
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OK fellow 2+2ers, I seldom post but this hand got me thinking long after the tourney.

FT $24+2 with 176 starting. We are down to 19, and 18 places pay. TD just announced Hand by Hand for 3 tables. We have 7 at ours.

I had wonderful reads on everyone involved. UTG+1 was weak tight and would fold to almost any re-raise. CO was a solid TAG & we had been together for almost 40 minutes. I had a solid TAG with nothing but good cards shown for the whole time. First time I have not been caught stealing [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]! I am currently in 10th place with two players who will not survive the next BB. Avg = t13,900.

UTG+1 (t7000)
CO (t13,500)
Hero in BB (t11,200)

Action:
UTG+1 limps (t1000); CO raises to t2500;

Hero has KK in BB. What's my line?
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:43 PM
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Push
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:46 PM
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Push

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If the situation were so cut & dried, I wouldn't have posted. If anyone's answer is "push", please give your reasoning.
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Old 12-30-2005, 05:34 PM
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All in here is the only option. I can't imagine even the worst player slow playing aces given his stack and the fact that he's BB next hand, so you know you have him beat.

If UTG calls your all in and TAG folds, even if you're drawn out on you still have enough chips to possibly make something happen.

If UTG folds and TAG calls, then at the very least you know you put your money in with the best hand (AA is POSSIBLE, of course, but certainly not probable enough to get away from the hand for that reason).

If you fear a drawing hand that can really improve over you (say AQ suited), and you'd rather just make the money than have a chance to double up and win the thing, then fold.

I push all-in here, though.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:01 PM
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Push

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If the situation were so cut & dried, I wouldn't have posted. If anyone's answer is "push", please give your reasoning.

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I'm curious as to what makes you feel like this is not a cut & dried situation? I agree that this is a pretty standard push. Sure we want CO coming along. Depending on the type of player he is I think that a push accomplishes this just as much as any other raise so I'd rather just get them in now.
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:06 PM
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I'm curious as to what makes you feel like this is not a cut & dried situation? I agree that this is a pretty standard push. Sure we want CO coming along. Depending on the type of player he is I think that a push accomplishes this just as much as any other raise so I'd rather just get them in now.

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Agreed. The only thing that should be going through your mind right now is how to get your chips in the middle. If he does have aces, well then that's very unlucky for you. We all lose on the bubble from time to time.

Standard Push IMO.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:26 PM
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You mean me don't get "French Benefits"?
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Old 12-30-2005, 07:14 PM
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Push

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If the situation were so cut & dried, I wouldn't have posted. If anyone's answer is "push", please give your reasoning.

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It's very cut and dried.

You have 12 big blinds.
Theres a limper.
Theres a raiser.
You have the second best hand in hold'em.

Show me where the uncut and wet part is.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:16 PM
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this thread caused me to find this:

Awesome

i'm going to be a smartter person in no time.

(i thought it was cut and dry. not cut and dried. ::the more you know NBC clip:
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:05 AM
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Push

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If the situation were so cut & dried, I wouldn't have posted. If anyone's answer is "push", please give your reasoning.

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It's very cut and dried.

You have 12 big blinds.
Theres a limper.
Theres a raiser.
You have the second best hand in hold'em.

Show me where the uncut and wet part is.

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