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Old 09-12-2005, 02:23 AM
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Default Huge pot - Top two pair

Great table $2-$4 on an unknown site (converter doesn't accept HH) with some nice talking [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] people. It seems like everybody plays for fun and relaxation. I've been winning a lot and maybe have a laggish image, although I doubt they know what that is. All I can say is that people are very passive, calling down when raised with about anything (TPTK, Overpair, etc)

Preflop - Hero is in sb with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Two limpers, button raises (wow), hero 3bets, limpers cold call, button caps (wtf) and all call

Flop - A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, limpers check, button bets, hero check-raises, limpers call, button 3bets, hero caps, all call

Turn - 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero check, limpers check, button bets, hero check-raises, one limper out (finally), other limper cold calls, button 3bets, I cap, all call

River - 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Wassup?
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: Huge pot - Top two pair

If you can't get a converter to list the pot size, then you should provide it yourself.

Anyway, the button has shown a lot of strength on every street. What does he play this way that you beat? Even with AK he would slow down on the turn (as you say, table is loose and passive). I would call the turn 3bet and go to showdown.
As it is, you need to check-call this river.

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Great table $2-$4 on an unknown site

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wtf?
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Huge pot - Top two pair

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Great table $2-$4 on an unknown site

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wtf?

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What I meant was that it was unknown to the handconverter and also that I played there for the first time.
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: Huge pot - Top two pair

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I would call the turn 3bet and go to showdown.
As it is, you need to check-call this river.

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Yes I thought de turn cap on my part was a little over the top. I check called the river though.

Anything about the flop and turn check-raises? Good? No?
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Old 09-12-2005, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: Huge pot - Top two pair

Flop check-raise was good, though I would lead the turn myself because the button may get not bet again after I capped.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:42 AM
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Default Re: Huge pot - Top two pair

Bet-call. You don't want to check-raise here and get 3-bet. Besides, betting will keep the limper in more likely than a check-raise will. Let that dead money stay in.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: Huge pot - Top two pair

If the limper has even a single brain cell then I'm afraid of the flush. Yeah, I'm a nit. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: Huge pot - Top two pair

If the limper suddenly raises here, you can fold without much worry, since he's raising the two agressors that capped both the flop and turn. You'll be pretty sure he does have the flush.
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:58 AM
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Not taking this to showdown would be a real shame. I've also seen donks raise this river because they think it's fun to take shots at you.
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Old 09-12-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Huge pot - Top two pair

if you're that surprised button raised/capped PF then you shouldn't have 3-bet PF (i dont think you should be 3-betting here all that often actually) and probably overplayed your hand a bit postflop.
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